EVE General Discussion

Our newbees are little guys and they lead fleets and stuff so do ok.

Can someone link info on the new systems? It's the first time I hear about that and I would love to know more.

lol yea. When my alliance was allied with TEST I remember ratting in an empty system and reading these forums on another screen (about how safe and blue null is) when some CFC guys came in via a wormhole.

TEST and Goons were still blue back then but CFC and HBC was another matter. I got scrammed and the exact wrong moment by an npc frig (this was before MJDs of course) and three CFC Cynabals landed on me and kill my Machariel (I had one of them in hull, another few seconds and he would rode the train to space-hell with me lol).

I actually linked the thread I was reading in local as I got my pod out and told them "this can't be happening at all, don't you know about the Blue Mother ******* donut?????" We all had a good laugh at that, them more than me because I was going to have to replace a freaking Mach .......

If you want fun and adventure npc null is the place to be , if you want to go to null just to carebear your ass off then yes you will need to rent or join one of the big boys.


I'm guessing most people bitching about the blue donut just want to go out and carebear their ass's off though ..

I want to see how long the blue doughnut will last, if it it ever successfully made.

If you go back far enough, say 6 or 7 years ago, "small" groups of 50 - 100 actually did hold and keep sov.

Nullsec was better in those days.

The state of nullsec in it's current form should be considered an embarrassment.

The deep dark secret of nullsec, while the alliance propagandists intentionally push "Grrrr highsec", is that the large numbers of nullsec blocs are only made possible by offering more profitable carebearing.

The blobs are a "service". The mechanics enable them to have their own version of Concord, and the bulk of their membership is no different than a highsec miner. I've seen untanked industrials and PVe fits in goon space.

The mechanics for nullsec is basically Concord, everything but the actual Concord ships and pilots. So of course there is going to be blobs and very cheap and fast means of moving them around too.


The whole point of renting is to make ISK off normally empty systems. Hence the "kill everything that moves" motive. You see, if you trespass, they might be a few hundred million short of their rent. That's a neat "system" they got there. High rent that MUST be earned, like having a job, in order to stay out there. If they don't rent out there, they won't be able to call themselves leet nullsec players. So into the hamster wheel of stupidity and ePeenery the neckbeards go...



But the fix is already in.

CCP is providing tools for guerilla warfare and subterfuge. SOV can become a bigger headache for those whose self-esteem depends on having it. The problem is that everybody who *could* take this up, thinks that in order to deal with nullsec, they have to be just like nullsec, and therefore, they think of failure.

"I have to have blobs to fight the blob! waaah!". "I can't make as much ISK as I could doing XYZ it's all about ISK ISK and more ISK!!!!"

Duh. If you are chasing numbers, go play Monopoly. One of the great things about Eve is that it's enough of a sandbox to really stick it to all those aspergian min-maxers worrying about ISK or their killboard stats. The tears from a failed gate camper rival that of a miner who didn't tank his industrial.

So the thing to be doing is to head out there and have a good time rather than complaining about it on the forums. The tools are there. If you can't beat them at their own game, then play the game your own way.

Rose colored glasses type thinking. The groups that did that back then were no more than Vassals of larger groups (basically the renters of the day) or inhabited space so useless (before Dominion's system upgrade scheme, people forget the useless desert 90% of null sec systems with less than 5 belts were before that) that no one wanted to shoot 500 POSes to move them.

You're exaggerating.

Nullsec was nowhere near in the state that it is now. There are only two major entities in all of nullsec at the moment.

There were over a dozen 7 years ago. Maybe more. There was plenty of room to spring up various places.

Then will you join me in a movement to make all resources FINITE? After all that would serve well your "because CCP made a video game with space ships and guns " yet we see a NAPfest and overlords sitting on piles on ISK and moon goo.

I'm tired of this "this is a PVP game! Hurf blurf!!!!" and yet nothing about the one thing that drive conflict the most: resources. Just about every war in history from the day an ape man pummeled another ape man with a femur over a water hole to now was directly and indirectly about resources (even holy wars, which were really about resources but the motives were buried under BS) .

So, put your money where your keyboard is and join me in a crusade to make ALL resources finite. Then we'll see a real application of the meaning of "because CCP made a video game with space ships and guns ".


Oh and here's a hint: would we have so much blob if resources were finite? Usually the greatest enemy of any empire was the exhaustion of their resources.