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Team Avatar and the future of our prototype

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Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#3321 - 2014-01-27 22:06:47 UTC
Topic hasn't been poked in three days. *lovingly pokes the thread*

Maybe when the Fanfest cinematic gurus are all mulling over how to make cool trailers, the topic of revisiting this might come up in discussion somewhere?

Soraya Xel - Council of Planetary Management 1 - soraya@biomassed.net

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#3322 - 2014-01-28 00:07:35 UTC
Tysun Kane wrote:
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Today, CCP stealthily announced the introduction, in Rubicon 1.1, of the first multiplayer avatar gameplay in EVE Online: Sitting in Frigates. Players Sitting in Frigates will be able to enjoy the company of up to two other capsuleers in their disposable hulls, leer madly while firing weapons, and give each other crap.



I noticed that but didnt want to get my hopes up. We will see what happens.


It did give me an idea though (as clearly wer're pod pilots and float in goo in a steel tomb) about the projected images or avatar pictures we get in the chat window, aka profile pics. How about animating them to lip sync when someone speaks via eve voice. It's not true avatar content but it might make people care enough about their avatar to support more avatar content in the future not to mention the obvious social benefit. If done properly in a quality way it might make a dent in the social wall that CCP seagull is desperate to demolish.

Have them animate in a the chat window instead of just moving recent speakers to the top as an optional only feature as well organised fleets won't need this but it might be fun for small gangs. Likewise if people don't like this they can switch it off or carry on using ts etc.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#3323 - 2014-01-28 00:26:11 UTC
As silly as Sitting in Frigates sounds, if CCP did it, they could maybe do a generic frigate bridge for each race, and they'd basically have matched where Star Citizen is in development right now. ;)

Soraya Xel - Council of Planetary Management 1 - soraya@biomassed.net

Zyklon Stargazer
Doomheim
#3324 - 2014-01-29 21:29:39 UTC
Wish they would just release this stuff already. Wouldnt be giving star citizen a 2nd thought if we could just open the door.

Flamespar
WarRavens
#3325 - 2014-01-29 22:55:03 UTC
I wonder if it was discussed at the CSM summit.

If it was its likely to be under NDA anyway.

Star citizen continues to look like an attractive alternative to EVE. I hope the competition it brings causes CCP to do something exciting again. Seriously none of the recent expansions, whilst having some nice things in the, have even been remotely exciting.
Tysun Kane
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3326 - 2014-01-29 23:12:54 UTC
Zyklon Stargazer wrote:
Wish they would just release this stuff already. Wouldnt be giving star citizen a 2nd thought if we could just open the door.




+1
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#3327 - 2014-01-29 23:16:46 UTC
Zyklon Stargazer wrote:
Wish they would just release this stuff already. Wouldnt be giving star citizen a 2nd thought if we could just open the door.



+1

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Flamespar
WarRavens
#3328 - 2014-01-30 07:27:10 UTC
I have looked into the future.

Dust 514 players will be getting to explore derelicts in the manner suggested by the OP. EVE players will not.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#3329 - 2014-01-30 14:58:29 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
I have looked into the future.

Dust 514 players will be getting to explore derelicts in the manner suggested by the OP. EVE players will not.


Pffft... The thought of Dust surviving that far into the future are fairly implausible.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3330 - 2014-01-30 16:08:12 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
I wonder if it was discussed at the CSM summit.

If it was its likely to be under NDA anyway.

Star citizen continues to look like an attractive alternative to EVE. I hope the competition it brings causes CCP to do something exciting again. Seriously none of the recent expansions, whilst having some nice things in the, have even been remotely exciting.


lol...if Star Citizen even gets released it's not a MMORPG. I also don't see wizard robes or Barbie gowns on the list of features.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

Silent Rambo
Orion Positronics
#3331 - 2014-01-30 17:07:48 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
I have looked into the future.

Dust 514 players will be getting to explore derelicts in the manner suggested by the OP. EVE players will not.


Pffft... The thought of Dust surviving that far into the future are fairly implausible.


I don't think Dust will die on the PS3. The last thing CCP will do with Dust, if its in really dire straits, is a PC port. If it dwindles on PC, then the plug will be pulled, but it probably wouldn't dwindle on the PC for a while, since it would get a large influx of EvE players, general PC shooter players, and other players without PS3's.

As long as they are smart and have this contingency, then Dust will survive into the future. If they developed without a PC port in mind (which with keyboard and mouse control is fairly obvious that they did plan for this), then it could potentially be in trouble as the amount of money to make a port might exceed the expected return of said PC port.

You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies?

Flamespar
WarRavens
#3332 - 2014-01-31 07:59:06 UTC
Dust514 seems to have improved lately. Don't know if it's enough for it to profitable, but there has definitely been some small improvement.

The reason why I think Dust players will be walking in derelicts before us is because most of the technology is already in game. Just add PVE and some new levels.

It would annoy me greatly if it happened though. As it would be another broken promise as far as I'm concerned.
Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3333 - 2014-01-31 08:05:21 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Dust514 seems to have improved lately. Don't know if it's enough for it to profitable, but there has definitely been some small improvement.

The reason why I think Dust players will be walking in derelicts before us is because most of the technology is already in game. Just add PVE and some new levels.

It would annoy me greatly if it happened though. As it would be another broken promise as far as I'm concerned.


I think the eve client still has all the assets to Wis on the hdd... Dont Think all that 12gb of data is just systems... The biggest issue i have is the fact we pretty much are funding dust 514 and EvR all we get out of the deal is broken promises....
Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#3334 - 2014-01-31 08:26:38 UTC
It is truly sad that the Dev focus has gone off of Eve and onto Dust and VR, It appears that they have just gotten bored with Eve the same way the blizzard devs had with WoW and Trion with Rift. Now we are spoon fed broken patches and told to be grateful for what we get, let alone what they pass off as expansions these days.

After 9 years of playing this game it's disgraceful to see Eve pushed aside when so many great ideas are just ignored, and the current Devs churn out useless modules to cater for the WoW crowd rather than making any attempt to engage the players they already have. I'm not saying we shouldnt encourage new blood to the game, just that you shouldn't **** on your own doorstep and expect people to be happy about it.

I seriously hope that someone with half a brain in CCP gets wind of plea threads like these and takes notice for once, contrary to common opinion we do actually want to make this game better.
Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3335 - 2014-01-31 08:32:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Seras Victoria Egivand
There not even expansions those actually add things to do.... rifter revise number 5 with cherry red paint doesn't constitute expansion worthy material. Honestly not even sure if they care so long as they get there monthly dues.

Hell even if they just opened the door to a blank station and gave us access to build tools..... Eg buy a station enter said station enter edit mode start designing your station...
Inari Visas
Federal Navy Academy
#3336 - 2014-01-31 09:35:16 UTC
Star Citizen s all well and good, but EVE should keep it's own image and authenticity intact. I wouldn't mind vanity content such as opening a door and walking inside my frigate, but it's still vanity content. Nothing really meaningful. I think eve is at a point that whatever they want to add in order to call is an expansion (in the veins of other mmos), needs to be grand. Only if you want it to be meaningful.

I may be half correct, but that's my 2 isk.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3337 - 2014-01-31 13:51:04 UTC
Samoth Egnoled wrote:
It is truly sad that the Dev focus has gone off of Eve and onto Dust and VR, It appears that they have just gotten bored with Eve the same way the blizzard devs had with WoW and Trion with Rift. Now we are spoon fed broken patches and told to be grateful for what we get, let alone what they pass off as expansions these days.

After 9 years of playing this game it's disgraceful to see Eve pushed aside when so many great ideas are just ignored, and the current Devs churn out useless modules to cater for the WoW crowd rather than making any attempt to engage the players they already have. I'm not saying we shouldnt encourage new blood to the game, just that you shouldn't **** on your own doorstep and expect people to be happy about it.

I seriously hope that someone with half a brain in CCP gets wind of plea threads like these and takes notice for once, contrary to common opinion we do actually want to make this game better.

So you're upset that CCP ignores Eve to focus on DUST but you hope that they, instead, will ignore Eve by focusing on WiS?

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#3338 - 2014-01-31 14:24:02 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Samoth Egnoled wrote:
It is truly sad that the Dev focus has gone off of Eve and onto Dust and VR, It appears that they have just gotten bored with Eve the same way the blizzard devs had with WoW and Trion with Rift. Now we are spoon fed broken patches and told to be grateful for what we get, let alone what they pass off as expansions these days.

After 9 years of playing this game it's disgraceful to see Eve pushed aside when so many great ideas are just ignored, and the current Devs churn out useless modules to cater for the WoW crowd rather than making any attempt to engage the players they already have. I'm not saying we shouldnt encourage new blood to the game, just that you shouldn't **** on your own doorstep and expect people to be happy about it.

I seriously hope that someone with half a brain in CCP gets wind of plea threads like these and takes notice for once, contrary to common opinion we do actually want to make this game better.

So you're upset that CCP ignores Eve to focus on DUST but you hope that they, instead, will ignore Eve by focusing on WiS?


Or they could ignore Valkyrie/Dust, and put just as much work on ongoing Eve projects AND add Avatar content without negatively affecting the Eve development that 'you want'. They're not mutually exclusive Rhes.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3339 - 2014-01-31 14:26:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhes
Arduemont wrote:
Or they could ignore Valkyrie/Dust, and put just as much work on ongoing Eve projects AND add Avatar content without negatively affecting the Eve development that 'you want'. They're not mutually exclusive Rhes.

Of course they are. Any development time or money spent on WiS nonsense is development time or money not being spent on real Eve content. I'd love to see CCP stop wasting effort on Dust and Valkyrie but if they did they should redirect those resources to spaceships.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#3340 - 2014-01-31 14:32:39 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Or they could ignore Valkyrie/Dust, and put just as much work on ongoing Eve projects AND add Avatar content without negatively affecting the Eve development that 'you want'. They're not mutually exclusive Rhes.

Of course they are. Any development time or money spent on WiS nonsense is development time or money not being spent on real Eve content. I'd love to see CCP stop wasting effort on Dust and Valkyrie but if they did they should redirect those resources to spaceships.


You know, if you love spaceships so much maybe you should play a spaceship sim. Eve is an MMO, a social monster, where a great many of the people who play successfully hardly ever need to undock. Spaceships are the medium of our gameplay, but they are not the gameplay itself. A great many of the things that are important in Eve don't require spaceships at all.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf