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Who's a carebear?

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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2011-11-24 21:07:21 UTC
Dbars Grinding wrote:
according to CCP you pvp every time you undock. So i am a hardcore pvper.


meight, you don't need to undock to engage in the highest form of PvP in eve

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#62 - 2011-11-24 21:24:44 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
If you don't PVP you are a carebear. I wouldn't worry about it enough to make a thread about it though unless you feel guilty.



Are you sure about PVP? I know of your penchant for the 1v1 Incursus encounter P, but are you thinking of PVP as a matter of putting oneself in a situation where PVP is always an outcome?

I think there is a difference between "carebear is someone who does not PVP" versus "carebear is someone who is entirely risk-averse".

Bringing this up because I have seen PVPers who were very risk averse, so much that I once ran off a 5-man group because non of them wanted to be "the lossmail" in the encounter. I was dead meat, but their own fear of losing a ship saved my skin.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Tore Vest
#63 - 2011-11-24 21:44:44 UTC
Person versus carebear is not PvP.
Its PvV
Person versus victim

No troll.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2011-11-24 22:59:44 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Person versus carebear is not PvP.
Its PvV
Person versus victim
LOL.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#65 - 2011-11-24 23:29:28 UTC
I'm a carebear! \o/ Bear

... but which one am I? Sad

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Handsome Hussein
#66 - 2011-11-24 23:36:14 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I'm a carebear! \o/ Bear

... but which one am I? Sad

The dipshit kind.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.

Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#67 - 2011-11-24 23:37:12 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I'm a carebear! \o/ Bear

... but which one am I? Sad


The woman kind?

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Titania Hrothgar
Nemesis Retribution
#68 - 2011-11-25 00:24:12 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
If you don't PVP you are a carebear. I wouldn't worry about it enough to make a thread about it though unless you feel guilty.


Well, this means that most of the people in high sec aren't carebears.

All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.

Ensign X
#69 - 2011-11-25 02:04:32 UTC
ITT: OP rails about Carebears shitting in his sandbox while simultaneously being a Carebear and shitting in other people's sandboxes. Also, at some point, OP is buggered by the guy from Sudden Buggery before proceeding to ignore many valid points and numerous requests from his peers to, "Please, for the love of god, shut the **** up and go the **** away."
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#70 - 2011-11-25 03:56:04 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
ITT: OP rails about Carebears shitting in his sandbox while simultaneously being a Carebear and shitting in other people's sandboxes. Also, at some point, OP is buggered by the guy from Sudden Buggery before proceeding to ignore many valid points and numerous requests from his peers to, "Please, for the love of god, shut the **** up and go the **** away."

vOv

I get what he's saying... It's not being risk averse, so much as it is calling for the risk to be removed (from wherever). PS does not fall into that group, whether he/she/it is any good at pvp (per se).

Keeping Eve "conflict" driven (and player conflict the majority of the time) appeals to a lot of people.

I get the PS is just trying to drive discussion and find myself forced to agree with the point of the original post. People who call for "hi-sec" to be "safe" sec will damage the core of the game...

vOv

That's not to say I agree with him on *everything*. Lol

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2011-11-25 07:14:49 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
"Please, for the love of god, shut the **** up and go the **** away."
You still trying to score points with your peers?

I'm off the Uni, if the news hadn't reached you yet. Kel has rewritten the WSOP (again), and I look forward to reading it. They are implementing "forward bases." (a pretty cool low/nullsec idea for moving people out away from Aldrat.) Not too mention, Darian is starting a program to help migrate Unistas from the corp to the "outside world." And it might come to pass that Graduate Medals are only awarded to Unistas (excluding teachers, managers and directors) leaving the Uni. So, good changes are happening over there. I'd like to think that my "campaign" was some small amount of impetus. :)

So, Ensign, no need for you to be all Internet Rambo, there's no more points for you to score. The "war" is over.
David Clausewitz
David Clausewitz Corporation
#72 - 2011-11-25 07:48:32 UTC
Most people are carebears because carebear is synonymous with casual and most people are casual.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#73 - 2011-11-25 09:28:44 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
So, Ensign, no need for you to be all Internet Rambo, there's no more points for you to score. The "war" is over.

I greatly implore E-Uni to make a whine post on Eve-O, about how they changed the rules because of Poetic.

If you make it think it has won, it might stop the posts What?

Ensign X wrote:
Also, at some point, OP is buggered by the guy from Sudden Buggery before proceeding to ignore many valid points and numerous requests from his peers

I offered him to selectively quote, but he chose his other favourite; to ignore it completely and selectively quote someone else to continue the thread.

Pretty predictable guy, really.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-11-25 09:45:10 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
You "kinda suck at PVP"? Well, guess what. Everyone does when they don't try.

You are being risk averse by not trying.


Lady Spank wrote:
To be honest, even if you diaf for your first 20 fights you still learn an absolute ton ... this cool guy from the Bastards (General Coochie) made a vid killing bad people in interceptors by flying a 800k isk incursus with cheap meta modules (meta 3 or lower). http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadid=1017792

that was my inspiration and how I got started.


I'm taking your advice, along with that of Lady Spank. I didn't realize, Khan, you needed me to say so before I actually did. I figured when I actually started doing it, I'd thank you and Spank, rather than thank you while it was still just talk. I just need to finish this Sisters of Eve arc (I need to get my Amarr standings higher), so I'll start building out ships and hauling them Saturday. I'll start getting killed on Sunday. :)
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2011-11-25 09:55:15 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
If you don't PVP you are a carebear. I wouldn't worry about it enough to make a thread about it though unless you feel guilty.


Define your definition of PvP. Or rather not. Since its obvious its only "combat"
Taiwanistan
#76 - 2011-11-25 10:31:05 UTC
ITT somebody is advertisement for a blog

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#77 - 2011-11-25 10:33:37 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
I just need to finish this Sisters of Eve arc (I need to get my Amarr standings higher), so I'll start building out ships and hauling them Saturday. I'll start getting killed on Sunday. :)

If your goal is to reach 0.5, to join FW (my best guess on why this is necessary) you can get there in about 2hours by running the new player tutorials for Amarr players, plus Connections III and Social III.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2011-11-25 10:47:06 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
I just need to finish this Sisters of Eve arc (I need to get my Amarr standings higher), so I'll start building out ships and hauling them Saturday. I'll start getting killed on Sunday. :)

If your goal is to reach 0.5, to join FW (my best guess on why this is necessary) you can get there in about 2hours by running the new player tutorials for Amarr players, plus Connections III and Social III.
No. It's just down around -1.5 (boosted via diplomacy) from being in Minmatar space for so long. I would just like it closer to 0.0 for no particular reason, other than some breathing room.
bornaa
GRiD.
#79 - 2011-11-25 11:01:57 UTC
I am carebear...
I care to kill the bear... Twisted
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
Tinman Spectacular
The Long Range Foundation
#80 - 2011-11-25 15:59:39 UTC
This whole thread is Poetic Stanziel trying to score more points with the proverbial cool kids he ogles down in null sec. If this doesn't work, maybe you can write a Null Sec Counter-Circumnavigation blog.

Really, who can think of anything more exciting than warping from celestial to celestial in empty system after empty system trying to avoid the occasional bubble left from a camp... and then writing about it like they were Maverick with Iceman standing in a steamy locker room wearing some tighty-whities talking about how dangerous they are. Who knows, maybe they'll finally let you climb into that clubhouse high on the oak tree you've been peeing your pants to get a glimpse of.


That's right Ice...man!
Poetic Stanziel is... dangeroussssssssss sssss sss ss s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o