Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok, so you think that just because we can overheat module means we want to overheat it and carry spares around just to get our pre-patch tracking? The Revelation and some moros fits wont have that option, the only dread that will really feel a boost is an armor nag with 2 sebo 2 tc 2 heavy cap booster. A rev has 1 tc, so it's tracking is still going to drop despite your plan to "make them better" In some hot drops or even capital fights, you aren't in range of a carrier and are to close to drop a mobile depot to refit, so overheating your modules for XXXXXX isnt an option. As a Titan pilot you may not want to carry 2-3 sets of faction tracking computers just so you can burn set after set to get your pre-patch tracking. Maybe reconsider your general overheating ideas to certain modules that the players never even wanted to get the overheat bonus. Sensor boosters, tracking computers and cap boosters, as a dread you now to overheat 2/3 of these just to continue shooting and to get your pre-patch tracking back, the amount of heat damage will go up and the time a pilot can overheat to get his pre-patch stats will decrease. As a dreadnought pilot, I really dont want to have to carry 2-3 sets of Cap booster, tracking computers and sensor boosters just incase we have a fight that lasts longer then 5-10 minutes.

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Na, most peeps will not leave over this change. However, alot of small issues like this take the fun out of flying ships that we work months and months to train. They are nerfing the reasons to get into capital ships, over and over.

So you admit that this is just another bad pointless Rubicon 1.1 change for the sake of change? Well at least you're more honest than CCP Soniclover.

It's not quite so simple as just carry extra TC's. Heat spreads through the entire middle rack, not just the TC's. OH'ing the TC's will not only burn out the TC's, but also possibly the cap injector's and so forth.

This rather neatly sums up much of what is wrong with this proposal, specifically, and much of the proposals in this patch, in general.

It also indirectly points out that, hey, isn't CFC's Naglfar fit exactly like he describes? A quick check of the killboards for a Goonswarm Naglfar lossmail confirms that, why, yes, indeed, that IS precisely the fit of a CFC Naglfar.

Kinda makes one just a bit curious, does it not?

Ok so this change isn't game breaking, or ruins capitals, but it does add to the continuous nerf of dread tracking, and it's stacking up (capital tracking is sort of at an alright place, overheating does not give a straight bonus, it gives a possible bonus for a short amount of time). My problem is how ill thought out the balancing is. Isn't the balancing of overheating things the fact that the modules eventually burn out, the balance is built into the mechanic. So at most you get a small bonus to something for a short amount of time and then you have to stop in order to avoid not being able to use the module at all. If you want to balance it you make the amount of heat damage it takes greater, limiting the time it can overheat, problem solved.

Also if the problem is wormholes, then adjust the wormholes. Make it so the tracking of capital guns in wormholes is 5% less, instead of balancing the ship, balance the environment in which the ship becomes "op".

It's not so much the nerf, its more how horribly thought out the solution to your "problem" actually is. It feels more like the lazy balancing solution, than one that actually improves the game.

SO THATS WHY CFC JUST WHELPED 200 DREADS IN HED-GP




WHAT A JOKE!

A dread in siege can just about blap a BS with max skills drugs and hardwiring, And rightly so! a 3Bn ISK dread can 2 volley a 150mill dominix.. and? its like saying a BS shouldn't be able to track a cruiser... cruiser shouldn't be able to track a frig..

Another example of CFC whines at a ship they cant field properly, 2mill SP noobs in dreads cant hit as well as a 150Mill SP character in a properly fitted dread., A dread should be able to hit Battleships, Now supers are mostly used (by any self respecting alliance with less than 900 of them..) to bash SBU's TCU's stations, Before long A dreads only purpose will be to shoot a pos nothing more.

In next weeks nerf's Archon deployable drones to be limited to 5 and armor resist bonus removed.

I will not insult you CCP, as others are doing it for me, but you clearly have a bad idea about PR with community. Why nerf everything when u can buff everything and achieve the same effect?

As for this change were did u get idea that we even want or need overheating on those modules? As a revelation pilot in PvP I may want do it from time to time, but clearly my support (lokis etc.) has much more impact on my tracking. In PvE however when I run 4-5 capital escalations in WH, do you expect me to overheat for 1 hour? I think not...

CCP Rise go home, you're drunk...

while this indeed does sound like a terrible idea and that we should all be running alpha dhepra whlepo neaglflaws after said changes, with just gyros in the lows and tcs in the mids, why not just totally forget this idea ever happened.

Make Stacking a thing instead of encougaring it, make it muchmuch worse the more you fit since its "not" going to change anything afterwards anyway, and for the bads give them a skill to train so it makes it less bad, something only training accounts can inject,

also completly off topic make high sec incursions more like Sov, give the little bears some sort of insight into the ways of null/sov/politics by making them consume/anchor/destory stuctures things to reduce/increase payouts while also making certain things invulenerable give them more drama less tears mebe even some tidi