EVE General Discussion

The difference is that this started with a 5% income nerf, before anything else. MTUs didn't.

As a ratting module, they are stupid as hell, because they immediately put 20% of the bounty (old bounty) at risk, for a paltry 5% POTENTIAL (not immediate, it scales over time) increase in ISK. This does not include the 30mill risk you took just planting the thing (any ******* can just shoot it). The risk/ISK ratio is all wrong.

The MTU helps you scoop stuff more efficiently, and people can interfere with it. You sit on top of it and if you're paying attention, can scoop the loot/MTU itself before someone gets on grid to mess with you. Not even in the same league.

Offensively, they are stupid too.

If you go into enemy space and drop one of these, the ratters will just dock up. They aren't going to feed your coffers.

They'll wait till you leave, and then blow the thing up. 30 mill down the crapper, and no fight for you.

Its just dumb.

I know how to make use of several of the deployables, the utility of this one however is questionable due to being a higher opportunity cost than just not dealing with it. I don't need to rat to know this.

Interceptors do not befuddle or terrify me, they are simply imbalanced in the current pass due to the inability to force engagement with them and remove them from space in general or the area of operations. If anything I'd say that you not understanding the core tenants of what the problem is with nano'd kiting ceptors is either due to your own lack of knowledge of game mechanics or at best a low grade troll v0v. At the moment due to the changes in nullification of that particular style of ship my gang and interceptor gangs generally just stare at eachother or watch eachother pass by. They can't engage us because we'd kill them if they commit. We can't catch and engage them because it's mechanically impossible unless someone screws up so bad that they forget where the "Jump" button is.

The only other ship who's only counter while traveling is pilot stupidity is a covert/nullified T3, but even they fall prey to bad luck on occasion. I don't particularly like them either. I think travel should be dangerous in nullsec for everyone if they aren't clever.

I mean if I want a throwaway cyno that I know will get there every time I'll use an interceptor now. Something seems wrong about that.

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Once again you are arguing against the straw man you have built. I know full well the use of the deployables that are already in the game, and have several of each. The mobile depot in particular is especially exploitable for a T3 pilot, though any person that lives on the lam in hostile space should probably have one tucked away in a deep safed GSC at the very least.

I'm so terribly sorry we let you down Logical. It hurts me deeply that we have become lesser in your eyes.

I will immediately retreat to Syndicate and go into isolation to reflect on my failings. In time, perhaps I will recover enough to be the snarling monsterbee you deserve.

One day, maybe you'll be able to "grr Goons" unironically again. Time will tell.

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ESS is ********, how did CSM even approve that is beyond me. I'm not sure how CCP is planning to incentivize people to undock and make money actively in 0.0, making themselves vulnerable and providing PvP content when all they do is actually nerf the income.

Oh the irony... so called hardcore PvPers complaining about a PVE aspect of the game. Looks like someone calculated how much their ratting bot fleets will lose, and decided to do a call to arms on the forums.

How do you adapt to this?

Literally every other gang in the game can have engagements forced on them via some function, be it drops, counter drops, warp ins, bait or just catching them on the gate. Currently a nano'd malediction is functionally impossible to catch on a gate due to server ticks, it's immune to bubbles, even with MWD on it has enough agility to warp away while not aligned if you get a warp in before you can start locking, and it can do the same to a covert drop due to the glorious grid loading speeds of swapping systems. There's still bait, but most of the ships that can tie them down he'd simply never let himself be in point range of.

Most of these things don't apply to say a Taranis because it's generally a close range ship, and somewhat slow. But a malediction? Gets downright broken.

Really they just need their agility nerfed slightly, then a competent gang can catch them on a gate at least, and they'd have to have a gimmick fit ship to do it (dual sebod/rigged stilleto).

Not really. The general consensus amongst most null dwellers (Even ones that I technically hate) is that something got a wee bit over buffed again. It happens. Your constant insistence that me stating that something is broken and providing arguments to support my claims is somehow breaking my mind down with rage and unquiet thoughts is kind of amusing, it's like an overdone "u mad bro?"

Just like the catalyst is the bane of afk miners, so shall ceptors be for the semi-afk ratters.

Null tears, tasty.