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Something need to be done to stop the massacre of missioning ships and minning barges in hisec
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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2014-01-13 16:42:54 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:

If you want relaxing. I think my daughter has hello kitty online..... Or play minecraft....or are creepers banking your sandbox there too?


My 10yr old daughter loves helping me gank miners. She giggles every time she gets to press F1.

Parenting: You're doing it right.



I just hope she does not follow the military career.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#82 - 2014-01-13 17:10:33 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#83 - 2014-01-13 17:27:14 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.
This tbh. For many reasons.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2014-01-13 17:51:30 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.



Funny, because all countries that are like that are way more backwards and problematic than countries where military service is a career. I know.. I am in one of those and you learn absolutely NOTHING, just a feeble attempt to make you less able to think....

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#85 - 2014-01-13 18:26:26 UTC
Each time one of these threads start my balls boil with great vengeance and furious anger...

- CCP has already listened too much to carebears wanting to turn hisec into a no-risk theme park.
- Risk and non-consensual pew in hisec is what makes EvE special. Get rid of it, and you have just another WoW on your hands.
- WoW is that way ---->

Would you like to know more?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#86 - 2014-01-13 18:59:53 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.



Funny, because all countries that are like that are way more backwards and problematic than countries where military service is a career. I know.. I am in one of those and you learn absolutely NOTHING, just a feeble attempt to make you less able to think....


To each their own opinion, but I would urge you to try and understand how good that can be. Military service teaches people respect, discipline, work ethics, integrity, ect. It also provides valuable career training in many cases. It can also teach people the value of working as part of something bigger, seriously the list goes on.

I was a cocky little punk before my first encounter with my drill instructor.... you learn your place pretty fast.

Society as a whole... in the USA anyhow... could stand to learn a few lessons in boot camp.....

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#87 - 2014-01-13 19:50:18 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Each time one of these threads start my balls boil with great vengeance and furious anger...


Maybe you should put some ice on that, Feyd? Sounds uncomfortable.

I sympathize, though. I do.

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#88 - 2014-01-13 21:29:02 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Each time one of these threads start my balls boil with great vengeance and furious anger...

- CCP has already listened too much to carebears wanting to turn hisec into a no-risk theme park.
- Risk and non-consensual pew in hisec is what makes EvE special. Get rid of it, and you have just another WoW on your hands.
- WoW is that way ---->

I hear ya, Bro. I've put particularly obnoxious whingers 'Red' before, just on general principals - And I'll do it again.
REALLY tired of the WoW in spaaaace business.
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#89 - 2014-01-13 21:33:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.



Funny, because all countries that are like that are way more backwards and problematic than countries where military service is a career. I know.. I am in one of those and you learn absolutely NOTHING, just a feeble attempt to make you less able to think....


To each their own opinion, but I would urge you to try and understand how good that can be. Military service teaches people respect, discipline, work ethics, integrity, ect. It also provides valuable career training in many cases. It can also teach people the value of working as part of something bigger, seriously the list goes on.

I was a cocky little punk before my first encounter with my drill instructor.... you learn your place pretty fast.

Society as a whole... in the USA anyhow... could stand to learn a few lessons in boot camp.....
Sadly, we cannot afford to do that. Too costly, would wreck force discipline, wreck the schools pipelines, and only about one-in-four legally-permissible candidates is mentally, morally, and physically qualified anyway. In short, the country is up to its ass in the criminal, the lazy, and the ignorant. Ain't enough boot camp in the world to fix *that* problem.

(Yeah, I was Recruiter)
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2014-01-13 21:47:30 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Sadly, we cannot afford to do that. Too costly, would wreck force discipline, wreck the schools pipelines, and only about one-in-four legally-permissible candidates is mentally, morally, and physically qualified anyway. In short, the country is up to its ass in the criminal, the lazy, and the ignorant. Ain't enough boot camp in the world to fix *that* problem.

(Yeah, I was Recruiter)


Ugh, I didnt think about that. Touche`.

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#91 - 2014-01-13 21:56:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
If it makes you feel any better, you now know where to point the finger: Parents and schools. Oh, and also at the "no-tolerance-everyone-goes-to-jail' attitude of some politicians. Time was, you got in trouble, you got hauled home by the cops (who probably knew you by name), and mom whupped yer butt, then dad came home, and you got yer butt whupped a second time. Or if it was at school, the vice-principal whupped yer butt, then mom, dad, etc.

People whinge about 'oh how terrible' but yanno, it worked.
Alador Afuran
#92 - 2014-01-13 22:05:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Alador Afuran
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
And if you must mine, buy a permit.

aha! Buy the alphabet, if you need to write something :)
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#93 - 2014-01-13 22:22:09 UTC
In EVE, spaceships are consumables. Hell, I "lost" four gank Vexors in an hour and a quarter last night.

Learn that lesson, and you will stop being upset when you are ganked.

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2014-01-14 01:51:35 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.
This tbh. For many reasons.


At least if you want to be a citizen and be able to hold political office or vote.

I tried to teach her how to do the full gank. But she just wasn't fast enough to work all the controls before facpo would come along and kill my ganker. So can this thread turn into a "nerf facpo" thread now instead of whatever uselss crap it was before? Its for the children.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2014-01-14 03:59:27 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.
This tbh. For many reasons.


At least if you want to be a citizen and be able to hold political office or vote.

I tried to teach her how to do the full gank. But she just wasn't fast enough to work all the controls before facpo would come along and kill my ganker. So can this thread turn into a "nerf facpo" thread now instead of whatever uselss crap it was before? Its for the children.


Yeah faction police are just server strain, remove them. Oh and remove all the ewar concord does too.

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Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#96 - 2014-01-14 06:15:39 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
In EVE, spaceships are consumables. Hell, I "lost" four gank Vexors in an hour and a quarter last night.

Learn that lesson, and you will stop being upset when you are ganked.



LOL, never thought of a Vexor as a Suicide ganking ship. I thought that was in the realm of catalyst/Talos and Thrasher/Tornado. Learn something new every day :D
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2014-01-14 06:47:15 UTC
At 1000 dps for roughly the same price as a thorax you bet your ass it's a suicide gank ship! Have a chart I made about some maths on the subject!

A chart!

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2014-01-14 09:04:32 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.
This tbh. For many reasons.


At least if you want to be a citizen and be able to hold political office or vote.

I tried to teach her how to do the full gank. But she just wasn't fast enough to work all the controls before facpo would come along and kill my ganker. So can this thread turn into a "nerf facpo" thread now instead of whatever uselss crap it was before? Its for the children.



Funny.. I would do the opposite.. forbid people that server the military from voting. Here in south america we learned alot how BAD they are as administrators and udnerstanding what a good adminstrator is.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#99 - 2014-01-14 09:06:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagura Nikon
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


I just hope she does not follow the military career.


Military service should be mandatory after highschool.



Funny, because all countries that are like that are way more backwards and problematic than countries where military service is a career. I know.. I am in one of those and you learn absolutely NOTHING, just a feeble attempt to make you less able to think....


To each their own opinion, but I would urge you to try and understand how good that can be. Military service teaches people respect, discipline, work ethics, integrity, ect. It also provides valuable career training in many cases. It can also teach people the value of working as part of something bigger, seriously the list goes on.

I was a cocky little punk before my first encounter with my drill instructor.... you learn your place pretty fast.

Society as a whole... in the USA anyhow... could stand to learn a few lessons in boot camp.....



Taht is something PARETN shoudl teach. Its easy to say what you say when you did not live in a country where the military took over command and basically enslaved, tortured, humiliated the civil population. Not Disciplined m no respect. That is not what military teach.. they teach to fear POWER.. of the higher chain of command.


Discipline is something you learn at age of 5.. at HOME!

The world is not like US, a country that had the priviledge of starting up with great leaders.

Don't want to start a flame war here, Since the discussion is being civil, I am continuing it... I just liek to help enlight people that always lived in Western Europe and North America that some things are easy to say when you never faced that bad side of its results.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#100 - 2014-01-14 11:37:06 UTC
+1 for what Kagura Nikon is saying. I got conscripted when I was 19 and the whole experience was rather suboptimal. I'd rather not talk about it, but feel free to throw me an evemail if you're interested in hearing another side of the story.