EVE General Discussion

The harsh and unforgiving nature of EVE has **** all to do with Goons, champ. It's the format and the freedom players have to genuinely cripple one another structurally, logistically, militarily and financially, and that was all in place long before anyone heard of or gave two ***** about Goonswarm Federation.

And so far, SC is a pile of concept art, videos of staff who have all the depth and charm of a lead pipe, and a Star Conflict style shooter. #HYPE is such a sad an unfulfilling world to live in.

I'm no goon fan boy, but my point was that Star Citizen whilst technically excellent has an optimistic and utopian feel about as opposed to Eve online which is dark and dystopian. I think the future will be more like blade runner than starwars given how humanity behaves, but anyhow, the goons have a history of entering other mmo's with a view to exploiting game mechanics in order to change the nature of that game and ultimately destroy it, whilst being obnoxious to all and sundry. They've had some success at this in second life so I am told. Hence my statement that they might bring a little bit of Eve online to SC. As Eve online supports and encourages such behaviour. CCP sees emergent gameplay where other companies see griefing.

We are Star Trek pooping rainbows compared to just 200 years ago. In some ways, our world is a nightmare unthinkable to the people then. In some other ways, we are beyond the wildest dreams of the people then.

And you and me and your neighbour are terribly fortunate to have been born now and here.

Morale: the future is never what you think of it... and EVE is just a game.

Agreed on all points, in many ways people a hundred years from now will be also more fortunate than we are today though if you ask me a lot of people who play wow would argue the opposite (not that we care about them lol).

I've never subscribed to the idea that comparing Eve to another game is a good idea in a discussion. The whole 'Star Citizen' will kill Eve thing, just gets on my nerve more than anything else.

The trouble is though, that this argument has been done to death. Almost anything there is to be said, has been said. Now it's just people occasionally posting to show their support and bring this thread back to the front page for people who haven't seen it before to have a read of the OP.

So it's not really surprising that people feel the need to talk about a game that is actually developing something to use as a comparison.

It was announced by Braben one year ago, but that is stuff to make in future expansions, not in the release package. Same with planetary flight, and landing on planets. But whole game is made with respect to those functionalities.

Apparently they think that the policy that "sees emergent gameplay where other companies see griefing" makes them immune to said competition.

Well their famous five year plan for player built stargates certainly caters to this crowd of nullsec gamers that hate high sec while the rest of get shafted.

I am very late seeing this post but WOW this looks like a real interesting addintion to the EVE I love. hope CCP are still considering this for avatar gameplay.

Colour me very positively surprised if either of the projects turns out to be Avatar related, but after years of disappointment on this end I'm not really holding my breath.