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High Sec Income vs Null Sec Income - the reality

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1081 - 2013-12-21 02:27:31 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
On the up side I killed a Goonwaffe with two of them the other day

Destroyed a Goonwaffe ship? Impressive! They are fearsome pilots.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1082 - 2013-12-21 02:30:42 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
If I screenshot my Aeon docked in Jita 4-4, can we move past the idea that screenshots are proof of anything? This is even ignoring the fact your screenshots don't show how that loot arrived in your hangar, just "Like one site honest" and apparently we just accept that.

Jesus wept.

Lol. If you were bright you would have counted the number of OE in the hold, that gives you a good idea of how many sites were run. Also you might notice that the 23rd OE are missing so there are more sites that loot came from than just the OE in the hold. X-Types don't drop from 21st afaik.

As to why they are missing, Rasta sold them to buy the blockade runner so he could go around all the stations I dropped the loot off at via random wormholes and then cart them to Jita.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1083 - 2013-12-21 02:32:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Benny Ohu wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
On the up side I killed a Goonwaffe with two of them the other day

Destroyed a Goonwaffe ship? Impressive! They are fearsome pilots.

I know I'm freaking awesome. 2 bombs, popped instantly, locked the pod (apparently you don't teach your Goonwaffes to spam warp) and Goonwaffe brains and bits went flying everywhere.

Gimme a break, they're 1 month old noobs.

Edit:

ISD you may lock this thread now. I don't think it has any continuing value and its just constantly repeating back and forth the same old tired points, from both sides :)

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1084 - 2013-12-21 03:12:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
If I screenshot my Aeon docked in Jita 4-4, can we move past the idea that screenshots are proof of anything? This is even ignoring the fact your screenshots don't show how that loot arrived in your hangar, just "Like one site honest" and apparently we just accept that.

Jesus wept.

Lol. If you were bright you would have counted the number of OE in the hold, that gives you a good idea of how many sites were run. Also you might notice that the 23rd OE are missing so there are more sites that loot came from than just the OE in the hold. X-Types don't drop from 21st afaik.

As to why they are missing, Rasta sold them to buy the blockade runner so he could go around all the stations I dropped the loot off at via random wormholes and then cart them to Jita.

Time. Our point is about time. And not just the time to run the sites.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1085 - 2013-12-21 03:35:53 UTC
Also, am I the only one who thinks you shouldn't be able to just request that ISD close your thread when it doesn't go your way?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#1086 - 2013-12-21 03:37:07 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
If I screenshot my Aeon docked in Jita 4-4, can we move past the idea that screenshots are proof of anything? This is even ignoring the fact your screenshots don't show how that loot arrived in your hangar, just "Like one site honest" and apparently we just accept that.

Jesus wept.

Lol. If you were bright you would have counted the number of OE in the hold, that gives you a good idea of how many sites were run. Also you might notice that the 23rd OE are missing so there are more sites that loot came from than just the OE in the hold. X-Types don't drop from 21st afaik.

As to why they are missing, Rasta sold them to buy the blockade runner so he could go around all the stations I dropped the loot off at via random wormholes and then cart them to Jita.

Time. Our point is about time. And not just the time to run the sites.

Nice excuses, by the way

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1087 - 2013-12-21 04:09:12 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
If I screenshot my Aeon docked in Jita 4-4, can we move past the idea that screenshots are proof of anything? This is even ignoring the fact your screenshots don't show how that loot arrived in your hangar, just "Like one site honest" and apparently we just accept that.

Jesus wept.

Lol. If you were bright you would have counted the number of OE in the hold, that gives you a good idea of how many sites were run. Also you might notice that the 23rd OE are missing so there are more sites that loot came from than just the OE in the hold. X-Types don't drop from 21st afaik.

As to why they are missing, Rasta sold them to buy the blockade runner so he could go around all the stations I dropped the loot off at via random wormholes and then cart them to Jita.

Time. Our point is about time. And not just the time to run the sites.

How is it not going my way lol. You look like fools continuing to argue in the face of all the facts, you have opinions and they're not very good ones, and I have proof, in the form of screens shots, an extra 7 accounts, lots and lots of contracted faction bpc anyone can look at for themselves if they look up my alts, and you have opinions, and again, not very good ones :)

Its just pointless to continue to discuss this topic based on your deliberately ignorant replies, obfuscations, straw men and randomly regurgitated nonsense I have already repeatedly and properly refuted, we're just going around in circle.

It feels very similar to those fair attractions, where the clown heads pop up and you have to smash it on the head, then they pop up somewhere else, same head different place. You're arguments are the heads. I keep smashing them and low and behold, they pop again, and again, and again. Its an exercise in futility ffs, you're boring me :)


CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1088 - 2013-12-21 04:26:35 UTC
All the facts, lol.
There's one piece of fact you refuse to provide, and it's the one that proves or disproves your entire argument.
Since you're so unwilling to provide it, it's pretty clear which way this goes for you.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1089 - 2013-12-21 04:30:01 UTC
nuuu cuz ignint repLIES obfusomethings strawman stuff ur rong lol

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1090 - 2013-12-21 04:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
I also want to take this opportunity to ask you all to have a good look at yourself, copy and paste some of the offensive garbage you post to me and print it out and then go and read it out loud.

This is simply a computer game. If you're adults I really just shake my head at how your standards drop to such a low level that you lose your dignity and self control so much as to be writing that garbage over pretend computer game loot drops. Really quite disturbing :)

This is bit of a forum mail from somebody who I won't identify who used to act in a similiar way to how some of you behave here on the forums, I predict you writing something like this in your future, perhaps when your intellectual age catches up with your biological:

Quote:

I am also aware I have been a shitposting ****** on the forums but have taken a step back from eve recently and realised I got sucked into the 'troll' mentality and am taking steps to ammend this.


And this is a post I received in EvE, with the poster once again removed to avoid identifying them:

Quote:
Heya, I have been meaning to contact you for a while now.

You probably don't remember, but waaaaaaay back in the day (like 2004 forever ago) you stole some ore from me, and it was probably one of the most amusing conversations I have ever had in eve, and I have had a positive opinion of you ever since.

I just wanted you to know that you are one of my favorite people in eve and that everything you said in that forum post is 100% in line with my own feelings about what CCP needs to do to move the game forward.


And that's why I'm not going to be posting is this thread after this post, your behaviour is just aweful, your attitudes really stink, and I think you all (you know who you are) need to take a step back and give yourselfs a good reality check.

But hey, thank you for contributing to making this one of the longest threads I've every generated. Bye Bye 0/

Please post bitter angry ranty responses, I won't be reading them.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1091 - 2013-12-21 04:38:03 UTC
Nice. Let's completely distract once again from the fact that you're refusing to post the one thing which might actually lend credibility to what you're saying. Let's also make up some bullshit about writing offensive garbage, dignity and self control, etc. even though I've been rather civil to you this whole time.

Practice what you preach, idiot.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1092 - 2013-12-21 04:40:27 UTC
But I guess my behavior is awful because I keep pointing out why you're wrong. I didn't think it would make you cry so hard. Holy ****.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1093 - 2013-12-21 05:06:47 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm feeling grumpy lately


You a new owner for James?

I haven't before seen you post as abrasively as you have in the last little while. Or are you just a Grinch time of year?

In any case, I must admit to being captivated by your new forum style.

Mr Epeen Cool
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#1094 - 2013-12-21 05:11:02 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nice. Let's completely distract once again from the fact that you're refusing to post the one thing which might actually lend credibility to what you're saying. Let's also make up some bullshit about writing offensive garbage, dignity and self control, etc. even though I've been rather civil to you this whole time.

Practice what you preach, idiot.

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
But I guess my behavior is awful because I keep pointing out why you're wrong. I didn't think it would make you cry so hard. Holy ****.

Are these... goon general discussion tears?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1095 - 2013-12-21 05:13:56 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nice. Let's completely distract once again from the fact that you're refusing to post the one thing which might actually lend credibility to what you're saying. Let's also make up some bullshit about writing offensive garbage, dignity and self control, etc. even though I've been rather civil to you this whole time.

Practice what you preach, idiot.

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
But I guess my behavior is awful because I keep pointing out why you're wrong. I didn't think it would make you cry so hard. Holy ****.

Are these... goon general discussion tears?

I'm so misunderstood. Sad

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1096 - 2013-12-21 05:16:02 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm feeling grumpy lately


You a new owner for James?

I haven't before seen you post as abrasively as you have in the last little while. Or are you just a Grinch time of year?

In any case, I must admit to being captivated by your new forum style.

Mr Epeen Cool

It's possible, but I haven't noticed any changes myself.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#1097 - 2013-12-21 05:38:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm feeling grumpy lately

You a new owner for James?

I haven't before seen you post as abrasively as you have in the last little while. Or are you just a Grinch time of year?

In any case, I must admit to being captivated by your new forum style.

Mr Epeen Cool

It's possible, but I haven't noticed any changes myself.

James Amril-Kesh is evolving!

James Amril-Kesh evolved into a deadtear!

James Amril-Kesh used Read-Only !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

hyhn
Iynx Teledyne Armory
The Chogo Ri Commonwealth
#1098 - 2013-12-21 05:58:20 UTC
just wanted to get this in before this thread is locked.

thanks Infinity for dropping the info out and being the lightning rod. Reason does not work against propoganda and clearly neither does data. Of course, the fact that all your detractors come from one faction does not help their case one bit.

the path/method you laid out for exploration looks to be an interesting diversion. Think I may give it a try just to say check 1 thing off my New Eden bucket list.

One question for your detractors -- if with all your numbers, all that space, all of your organization, all of your isk and resources you can't find something profitable relative to the risk) to do -- why hold all that space ?

The true wealth generators are not in Empire but turning empire into the slums would do wonders for your pool of f1 monkeys

+1 like for being interesting Infinity

hyhn
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1099 - 2013-12-21 06:00:57 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm feeling grumpy lately

You a new owner for James?

I haven't before seen you post as abrasively as you have in the last little while. Or are you just a Grinch time of year?

In any case, I must admit to being captivated by your new forum style.

Mr Epeen Cool

It's possible, but I haven't noticed any changes myself.

James Amril-Kesh is evolving!

James Amril-Kesh evolved into a deadtear!

James Amril-Kesh used Read-Only !

Oh christ.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#1100 - 2013-12-21 06:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tauranon
Hyhn. There are finite number of sigs, that a finite number of people can run at any time, and if the population of people trying to run them rises, so does the contention over them.

The reason that all that space was held, was because at one time in the past, the moons in that space were so valuable that holding it to buffer the moons made sense. It remains sensible to hold, because people like me will rent it from them.

It also remains lucrative for me to rent, simply because that system is still fairly exclusive of others, and reserves far more than (signatures spawned daily in the universe / nullbears in the universe) worth of sigs daily for me. Everyone in this thread that is making a lot of isk, is taking far more than that ratio of signatures, within the limits of whatever strategy they pursue (ie they go do nothing whilst they find more sigs, I go do anomolies to keep my entrapment arrays working).

if the CFC as a whole started to try assert that each of their characters also got their fair share of sigs, there would be a CFC member in every sig before you ever found it, ie whenever someone posts that why aren't you doing all the sigs routine, its because it can't ever work for a 37000 member organisation. ie they literally can't plan on using it, as it simply can't support that many people using it.

Also there has been much presenting of luck streaks as normal, which will irritate the hell out of any experienced prober and set them foaming at the keyboard.