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Meta 4 Better than T2 , a mods list.
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Decaneos
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#1 - 2013-12-20 15:41:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Decaneos
So i was wondering if the community could help me compile a list of T2 mods that are completely worthless.

To become a Totally worthless T2 mod, the stats have to be = to or worse than there meta 4 companionANDalso you can easily find the meta 4 version for less on the market.

ECM- Mutlispectral Jammer II
ECM- White Noise Generator II
ECM- Phase Inverter II
ECM- Spatial Destablizer II
ECM- Ion Field Projector II
ECCM- Projector II
ECCM- Gravimetric II
ECCM- Ladar II
ECCM- Magnetometric II
ECCM- Radar II

Inertia Stabilizers II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II
Target Painter II
Cargo Scanner II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Heavy Nosferatu II
Medium Nosferatu II
Small Nosferatu II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Large Hull Repairer II
Medium Hull Repairer II
Small Hull Repairer II

Adaptive Nano Plating II
Thermic Plating II
Kinetic Plating II
Explosive Plating II
EM Plating II


Help me out here ;) Please give the exact name of the mod you wish me to add to this list, no i did not miss the small energy neut as the T2 variant is cheaper than its meta 4.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT IF YOU THINK A MOD IS WORTHLESS, IT IS ABOUT IF THE T2 VERSION IS WORSE IN EVERY WAY INCLUDING PRICE THAN ITS META 4 PARTNER.
Decaneos
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#2 - 2013-12-20 15:41:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Decaneos
Decided that i shall put here a list of Meta 4 mods that are better than T2 without the inclusion of price into the mix If it already appears in the list above it won't appear here.

Tracking Disruptor II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Warp Scrambler II
Remote Sensor Dampener II
Stasis Webifier II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II

Honrable mention

T2 MWD's all sizes
kurage87
EVE University
Ivy League
#3 - 2013-12-20 15:42:07 UTC
Target Painter II
kurage87
EVE University
Ivy League
#4 - 2013-12-20 15:44:51 UTC
I think Target Disruptor II as well, not as certain on that though.
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-12-20 15:47:11 UTC
1MN Microwwarpdrive II
10MN Microwwarpdrive II
100MN Microwwarpdrive II
Decaneos
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#6 - 2013-12-20 15:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Decaneos
The target disruptor is cheaper tho, thus not applicable. I will be checking each one of these so that the list remains good, however if there's a delay in a item going up its cause i'm at work :)
Dan Carter Murray
#7 - 2013-12-20 16:49:15 UTC
Odithia wrote:
1MN Microwwarpdrive II
10MN Microwwarpdrive II
100MN Microwwarpdrive II


the capacitor penality is slightly less for mwd t2
that's what you're paying for

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-12-20 17:25:22 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Odithia wrote:
1MN Microwwarpdrive II
10MN Microwwarpdrive II
100MN Microwwarpdrive II


the capacitor penality is slightly less for mwd t2
that's what you're paying for


This one depends on where you fly. If you need to burn through bubbles out in null then t2. If on the other hand you're pulsing and oh'd mwd for low sec skirmishes then go meta 4 as they can take more heat.

With that said:
Warp core stab II
Sensor disruptor II
SeBo II (?)
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-20 17:26:18 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Odithia wrote:
1MN Microwwarpdrive II
10MN Microwwarpdrive II
100MN Microwwarpdrive II


the capacitor penality is slightly less for mwd t2
that's what you're paying for


To be precise, the capacitor penalty isn't as bad when they're inactive; when they're running, they chew up cap at a fast enough rate that they'll cap you out more quickly. Also they're more vulnerable to overheating.

(TL;DR: go meta for a continuously-burning MWD, go T2 if you're going to just pulse the MWD and need more cap for other modules.)

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-12-20 17:32:04 UTC
Right. What he said.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#11 - 2013-12-20 17:36:49 UTC
While that is a valid point regarding the MWD that is often missed, I still think T2 MWDs are pretty ****.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2013-12-20 17:40:51 UTC
neuts, nos, TDs

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Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-12-20 17:50:11 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
[quote=Dan Carter Murray][quote=Odithia]
(TL;DR: go meta for a continuously-burning MWD, go T2 if you're going to just pulse the MWD and need more cap for other modules.)

I know that and it is the only module with such ridiculous compromise.
T2 are meant to be better than Meta 4 in everything but fittings and skills requirements.

Ammo and Faction is where the variation are meant to occurs and where you pick each variation for a certain purpose.

Right now T2 MWD are useless on 80% of ships and are only sold in such magnitude because people are clueless.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2013-12-20 18:07:26 UTC
t2 mwd is great when you plan to sit still and tank for awhile, but still need a mwd. Sure those times are few and far between, but I still wouldn't put them on the "useless" list.

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
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#15 - 2013-12-20 18:28:15 UTC
Small/medium/heavy energy neutralizer II

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Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-12-20 18:30:38 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Small/medium/heavy energy neutralizer II

So are Nosferatu.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#17 - 2013-12-20 18:58:59 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Small/medium/heavy energy neutralizer II


These have a use purely because they're identical to meta 4, and meta 4 is rare enough to be a lot more expensive.
Laizir
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-12-20 19:17:45 UTC
T2 Shield Power Relay
Niclas Solo
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-12-20 19:35:55 UTC
Small and medium cap boosters, large also if you don't use navy 800.
Web and short point.
Ta'krite
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#20 - 2013-12-20 19:40:26 UTC
Regardless of how situational the t2 mwds are they do not qualify for this list as they do have a stat advantage in one area.
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