EVE General Discussion

30 plex a day per side per warzone.

Each has ship restrictions, tougher NPCs, shows up on map and takes 1 hour to capture. 10% system capture per plex.

No farmers, get fights.

Or something like that.

I like the false premise that you should have to PvP that these sorts of threads are always based on.

In the end it's really a judgement call - an opinion not actually rooted in anything that would actually improve the game.

But it does brew conflict and actual warfare.

Look at systems like Old Man Star and Heydieles. There's been a huge amount of conflict there for the last couple of months; all based on factional conflict.

The same can be said of the systems around Tama, Eha/Oicx and I'm sure similar in the Amarr/Min FW area (I'm not so familiar with that outside the Ammamake/Sesiede systems.

Across most of the GalCal FW systems it's relatively easy to find fights and there are regular fleet encounters between the opposing sides.

So the LP farming isn't instead of warfare, it's in addition to warfare and for many, it serves to sustain their warfare losses. PvP isn't free and a lot of players go through a lot of ships because they like to PvP. They need a way to sustain that in order to keep the FW zones busy.

What is it you PVPers tell carebears all the time? Ah yes - Mr Pragmatic


So i take it your one of the little carebears that couldnt ? if not , then please explain what you where trying to say there , because either i am stupid or you clearly have no ideea what this thread has been going on about ...


Side note , this is not about PVE , this is about PvP , and about factional warfare itself , as i mentioned above the people who trully joined fw and play it like it should , give a damn about the war zone , about they-re hom systems stability and about the lp they work for in order to fund they-re pvp . This is not about your casual carebear that shoots a red cross and w8s for sparks to come flying out of the loot can .. if you don't have anything constructive to say about all of this , for example why do you consider this is or is not a good or bad ideea , to tell us , then why do you even bother posting bullsh1t ? ... because you probably have your own alt farming the plexes and hate the fact that the little isk pixies might dissapear ....

And what the h3lll does HTFU even mean ffs .... speak english( or atleast somethin close to that , like me ) because i cba to learn every acronym there is just because you are lazy ..

Typing from my phone so can't actually quote properly ..

To the people who are defending isk farming bots in FW space:

You're insane. The people bot farming in cloaked and stabbed ships aren't of any benefit to the people who actually fight in FW. They're not there to farm isk to benefit the warzone or the people in it.

They're there to get free money with no effort.

If you're going to put yourself in a position where you are defending free money for no effort, just go mine ice or blitz L4s and be done with it.

Yeah I was just thinking this.

Hey, does anybody have any guides to this ISK faucet playing? I got an alt for whom I can built scores of T1 frigates.

It was only half a joke. If I cash out now it's only like 400m/hr, which isn't that much for FW L4 missions. However, compared to pretty much every other activity in the game, it's a shitton of isk, and the risk/reward is way out of wack.

'staying and died to an uberfit ganker or rather group of gankers' vs 'running and boring everyone else off'

actually, more like

'staying and died to an uberfit ganker or rather group of gankers, losing a ship and time, giving them a killmail that will encourage them to look for me more frequently resulting in the loss of more time and possibly ships' vs 'no fun allowed'

when the best way to win is 'no fun allowed' there's something wrong with the game, especially when the mechanic in question has a design goal of provoking pvp and facilitating players to enjoy themselves (you should be familiar with this concept already, the same problem appears in sov war?)

it's not like i'm blaming the farmers. they're doing the best thing they need to do to win. but what's happening is contrary to what the fw rebalance was designed to achieve

gankers aren't uberfit anyway vOv farmers will run from a venture frigate. any difference in power between aggressors and farmers is because farmers are low-skill alts, because how many skills do you need to kill a rat and warp out?

What the flying, furry **** ?

Pleeease, please don't group us all with that one person.

Some of us live in W-space simply because ... well, just because **** Empire that's why. It's fun having your own system of sorts, having no local and a proportionately lower amount of idiots per capita. Anyone who knows me knows I don't give two hoots about farming or making ISK, just having some simple fun. I'm sure many other wormhole dwellers are the same, living there for the unique opportunities one encounters to have that fun, and not just for making ISK. For some players all of eve is just a big expense.