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[Rubicon 1.1] Sisters of EVE Battleship

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#1161 - 2013-12-07 20:20:19 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion.
This will only be the layout for the battleship.

Doru

Caldari Battleship Bonuses:
5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount
100% bonus to remote shield repairer range
50% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo velocity OR 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius
20% decrease in ship signature radius

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers
Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ?
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ?
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8
Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 420
Cargo Capacity: 700

fill in where you please, and I'm going to make a post for it now.


since when does gallente shield boost and how does it get ladar here?

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1162 - 2013-12-07 20:20:20 UTC
Eh, Nestor is pretty much finished, so eh
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1163 - 2013-12-07 20:21:44 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion.
This will only be the layout for the battleship.

Doru

Caldari Battleship Bonuses:
5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount
100% bonus to remote shield repairer range
50% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo velocity OR 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius
20% decrease in ship signature radius

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers
Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ?
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ?
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8
Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 420
Cargo Capacity: 700

fill in where you please, and I'm going to make a post for it now.



since its split between missile and RR. perhaps something like 100% bonus to missile damage and then only 4 turret slots so the other 3 can be used for RR.

or 3 launchers since you did 6.

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1164 - 2013-12-07 20:24:48 UTC
I fixed the Gal thing, sowwy.

I was thinking 100% to damage too but tought it be too powerful. And I like the idea you have to choose either missiles or logi, kinda fun haha
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1165 - 2013-12-07 20:24:53 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Eh, Nestor is pretty much finished, so eh


that has yet to be seen.

i mean when was the last time rise did not do a mark 2?

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Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1166 - 2013-12-07 20:26:25 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
I fixed the Gal thing, sowwy.

I was thinking 100% to damage too but tought it be too powerful. And I like the idea you have to choose either missiles or logi, kinda fun haha


you do have a point. though i was thinkin in balance with the nestor as you dont have to choose dps or RR since the bulk of damage will be coming from drones.

perhaps just dont do any extra damage bonus but do somthing like ex velocity bonus...

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1167 - 2013-12-07 20:27:05 UTC
With Rapids, he pretty much posted and said this is how it's gonna be. haha
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1168 - 2013-12-07 20:27:54 UTC
velocity bonus to missiles or ship?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1169 - 2013-12-07 20:28:53 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion.
This will only be the layout for the battleship.

Doru

Caldari Battleship Bonuses:
5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount
100% bonus to remote shield repairer range
50% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo velocity OR 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius
20% decrease in ship signature radius

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers
Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ?
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ?
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8
Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 420
Cargo Capacity: 700

fill in where you please, and I'm going to make a post for it now.



since its split between missile and RR. perhaps something like 100% bonus to missile damage and then only 4 turret slots so the other 3 can be used for RR.

or 3 launchers since you did 6.

Maybe the Mordus one can have repair drones, to balance it out

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1170 - 2013-12-07 20:29:39 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
velocity bonus to missiles or ship?


explosion velocity so its like a tracking bonus. helps apply damage but has only 6 launcher dps.

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Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1171 - 2013-12-07 20:29:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion.
This will only be the layout for the battleship.

Doru

Caldari Battleship Bonuses:
5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire

Minmatar Battleship Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount
100% bonus to remote shield repairer range
25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion velocity
25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius
20% decrease in ship signature radius

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers
Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ?
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ?
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8
Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 420
Cargo Capacity: 700

Like that? Doesn't sem a bit OP then?
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1172 - 2013-12-07 20:47:23 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion.
This will only be the layout for the battleship.

Doru

Caldari Battleship Bonuses:
5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher damage

Minmatar Battleship Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount
100% bonus to remote shield repairer range
25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion velocity
25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius


Slot layout: 7H, 7M, 5L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers
Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ?
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ?
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8
Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 336
Cargo Capacity: 700



made a few slight adjustments just built in the reduction of ship sig into the ship and replaced the rate of fire bonus with damage to bring the overall dps slightly down.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1173 - 2013-12-07 20:53:09 UTC
I think with a explosion radius AND velocity bonus, it's going to be OP still. Maybe a missile velocity bonus instead?
Mournful Conciousness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1174 - 2013-12-07 21:11:23 UTC
So we've seen all the posts on how the Nestor should be.

Here's how the SoE battleship will be:

Gallente Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how much drones suck and blasters can't hit anything

Caldari Battleship:
+100% bonus to whinging about how much missiles suck these days

Armarr Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to levels of whinging about how much lasers use too much cap and suck so much compared to blasters

Minmatar Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how the vagabond is no longer the most powerful HAC.

Role bonus:
+1000% to "look, I spent too much isk on a bling battleship, please gank me!" factor.

Pirate

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1175 - 2013-12-07 21:13:37 UTC
Well someone sounds like they need a hug huh
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
#1176 - 2013-12-07 22:42:56 UTC
Mournful Conciousness wrote:
So we've seen all the posts on how the Nestor should be.

Here's how the SoE battleship will be:

Gallente Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how much drones suck and blasters can't hit anything

Caldari Battleship:
+100% bonus to whinging about how much missiles suck these days

Armarr Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to levels of whinging about how much lasers use too much cap and suck so much compared to blasters

Minmatar Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how the vagabond is no longer the most powerful HAC.

Role bonus:
+1000% to "look, I spent too much isk on a bling battleship, please gank me!" factor.

Pirate


WTF is "whinging"?
Mournful Conciousness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1177 - 2013-12-07 23:14:16 UTC
Zvaarian the Red wrote:
Mournful Conciousness wrote:
So we've seen all the posts on how the Nestor should be.

Here's how the SoE battleship will be:

Gallente Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how much drones suck and blasters can't hit anything

Caldari Battleship:
+100% bonus to whinging about how much missiles suck these days

Armarr Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to levels of whinging about how much lasers use too much cap and suck so much compared to blasters

Minmatar Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how the vagabond is no longer the most powerful HAC.

Role bonus:
+1000% to "look, I spent too much isk on a bling battleship, please gank me!" factor.

Pirate


WTF is "whinging"?

English for whining

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging

Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#1178 - 2013-12-08 00:01:23 UTC
Maybe drop the exploration bonuses and give it a team support role with a 60k ship hangar, 1k corp hangar. Then weaken the remote armor bonus to a -50% capacitor need, keep the energy weapon bonus and maybe add a flavour choice of +2 warpcore strength, -100% reduction of scan resolution penalty from cloaks and/or the ability to use command links.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1179 - 2013-12-08 01:49:13 UTC
Mournful Conciousness wrote:


WTF is "whinging"?
English for whining

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging




The Brits are quite fond of extra letters with no function. Big smile

They are more fond of beating us yanks over the head about it.
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1180 - 2013-12-08 04:25:53 UTC
To be honest, there's really nothing they can do with the Nestor. SoE LP is trading at 3,000-3,500 ISK/LP, and the ship doesn't even exist yet. That means the Nestor is going to have a price of 2.2-2.7 billion at minimum, probably even higher since the release of the Nestor will spike demand. At this price point, it's simply unusable unless it's made grossly overpowered. None of the "balanced" fits posted here have any chance of being flown, they could put +500% repair amount, +500% repair range, -75% cap use on remote reppers, 20% drone damage/level on it and it would still be crap because even those stats aren't worth spending 3 billion on the hull.