EVE General Discussion

So it has been over two years since the fateful walking in stations expansion Incarna. I am wondering if it ever came out; who at CCP messed up the whole walking in stations idea that badly?

I think many of us remember back in 2007 the ten ton hammer video of CCP showing us a glimpse of walking in stations, it was gorgeous and we waited anxiously for 4 years to see this come out. What we got was completely different from what was shown to us before. It was not anything like we expected or was advertised, a total let down.

So who made the big decision to scrap the good walking in stations for what we have now? Why did CCP drop development of walking in stations when all they had to do was come out with what everyone was looking forward to...walking around a station. Being able to walk up to your ship and zoom out to see the awesome size comparison.

Do you know there are sci fi games coming out that are in beta right now that allow you to walk up to your ship? After ten years of EVE and two years of incarna, why cant the biggest sci fi game in the world still not let players walk up to their awesome ships? What are you doing wrong CCP?

Concerned customer.

(edit: this thread has taken a life of its own in just hours, highlighting how much people care about WiS fore or against it. Page 9 and 10 has more of my suggestions, i really like what stitcher has said too see his comments. I hope those who support WiS, will let CCP know how they feel, its obvious that Spaceship environment inside the station is important too. Now lets hope CCP can find a way to trickle in WiS enhancements for more of it's customers who want it)

A brief history of Walking in Stations (WiS) for newer folks. In 2007 there was a video from ten ton hammer where CCP unveiled a new concept for EVE Online. Walking in stations. It was the first step toward having Avatars or characters in first person not just flying a ship around. The video for many was inspiriting.
People waited four years, CCP put out promising news and video's about the progress of Ambulation, then Incarna.
In 2011 the Incarna expansion came with tremendous anticipation from some and ire from others. Incarna was a disaster and the fallout was CCP dropped WiS almost completely to focus on spaceships.
There are many of us who still believe CCP can add to the station environment and even give us limited WiS while still focusing on our beloved spaceships.

What do you think?

(edit: just a few of my suggestions for station environment, there are many good ones already in this thread)
1. Player interaction even if it just a bar.
2. Let us walk up close to our ship as it is stationary in a dock, greater camera control so we can zoom out to see how small we are compared to the ship.
3. Show workers repairing or maintaining our ships while we stand at the dock , doing our item or market chores.
4. Show multiple ships in the dock area, not floating just stationary in a dock, side by side. Lets say we have four ships in this hangar, make it so we can see all four of them in a row docked up. Then we can really see the size difference between ships.

just a few things i hope to oneday see in EVE

We want CCP to continue with internet spaceship fixes in this internet spaceship game.

Have you used CQ?

bittervets made that decision , tey qq long enough then ccp decided to stop it , i hope tey wil cont with it , my boobs looks awesome in 3d

Well CCP is going to lose alot more players if they just ignore avatars and walking in stations because there are a great many players (i know of) who want that to be part of the game they play.

With competition coming, many will just go to the other games if CCP cant deliver. My point is, if one company can do a decent job with avatars and walking in station in BETA, why cant CCP do something decent for its customers who want walking in stations with their awesome internet spaceships?

Of course not, it was just part of their development for WoD, a game which has the potential to make CCP even more money that Dust!

I don't get what the big deal about this whole wis thing is... If u want such gameplay grab GTA5 or something and hf ! Eve is about space and space ships if u add WiS then no one will be out in space anymore..we'll all be at the station's bar looking at female avatars asses all day long...

What should happen is you open the 'door' and then proceed to load Dust or just the cool bit where everyone walks around just before the battle, then add the ability to do gestures like thrusting and waving (in that order).

Eve's becoming the Nokia, Kodak of online games it needs a fresh look and quickly, Dust was always going to fail 80% of the player base said so, nobody listened.

Don't get me wrong I still love the game but it's more to do with friends, familiarity and the fact that it's still so large, but for how much longer? With the holidays things will pick up but there's unmistakably a gradual trend.

It's heart breaking, CCP are laying down in the road with a large bus (or two) hurtling towards it and it appears clueless as to how to pick itself up.

I can't quite communicate the feel I get from seeing posts saying this after having spent nearly a decade seeing posts saying this.