Live Events Discussion

The hilarious part happened when when people who made it form the satging sytem to the event objective (made it to light up a BLops Cyno in my prowler, gotta love interdictor speed+cloak in TiDi) the actors were already bored and Devstroyed the objective just as the first armor fleet managed to get more than 70 members.

your cool man :) thankyou for the links

Not my killboard, unless you are blinky red or a valid war target. I try to stay as far away from Empty Sec as possible.

Man, I don't give a crap, I brought a drake and a 50M pod, when the piece of... brick? died, I switched to a locally bought griffin and started looting the wrecks, and I got a domination x-large booster which basically covered the worthless stuff I brought.

My problem was 20j of tidi, which seperated the empire fleet into smaller 10-man gangs. By the time I reached lowsec, even, the event was already over (killed by CCP).

I was in nullsec at some point, and I do know how it works. I've done the blob stuff before, and I got bored of it real fast. Now I live in wh space, which I prefer, due to the 30v30 man engagements max (rarely ever more than that). I was fully prepared to die, but I was hoping for an 'epic' engagement of capsuleers and NPCs (or devs in ships), a giant clusterfuck of everyone versus everyone, something that would be part of eve history, you know? Something that revealed a bit of lore, or the end of empire incursions, or the unveiling of ghost sites or something that would change eve. This was, however, just a waste of (my) time.

Good for you guys though, glad to hear you got some nice kills out of that, at least someone had a good time.

I probably would have joined but there was a party at ccp headquarters so...

food and beer paid by ccp so a pretty good time

I think the major failings of CCP during the event were more to do with people's expectations, than what was being offered. The high sec fleet wanted this to be a 'training' fleet, where they would be instructed in PvP. Instead, it was just a convoy to a battle ground and everyone was sort of left to their own devices.

In CCP's defense however, the middle of a combat fleet is not the time to be asking how to broadcast for reps, or how to set up comms or overviews. If the fleet had taken on training people on those basics, it would have never left high sec. There are corps that specialize in training, like E-Uni. Even there you will have all that stuff set up before you ever join a combat fleet.

A live event with thousands of other players trying to enjoy themselves is the wrong place to expect everything to stop for tutorial instruction.

On the other hand, Eve is notorious for critical information being obscure or only found in sources outside the game. The event announcement would have been a good place to compile that kind of info for easy reference. A set of links, perhaps partner with E-Uni to use their library of instructional pages- would have gone far in people not feeling so utterly lost.

I can't speak to CCP's (lack of) FC'ing. Only that in a fleet without everyone on voice comms, not everyone knowing how to use the broadcast window, etc....the FC is facing an impossible task. Movement orders, target calling, when to GTFO...all happens too quickly to rely on typing in fleet chat. Consider the FC's position with 1000 people in fleet, most of them new to PvP, and most of them unable to adequately communicate. I'm not excusing poor leadership like not delegating authority or tapping experienced players in fleet to help out, but you do have to step back and realize that the FC's were working with their hands tied.

The locations seemed poor choices. A long slog for the high sec folks, but we null sec people only had to take a few actual gates after using our jump bridge networks in sov space. I got blown up and was able to reship and rejoin the fight within a few minutes. Not only was the convoy horrible in TiDi for the high sec people, but they were half the map from home.

Lastly, the fact that the high sec fleet was crushed was inevitable for many reasons. The one's I've mentioned already, but also- regardless of their numbers, the high sec fleets were kitchen sink affairs without a co-ordinated tank choice, engagement range, common ammo that can be shared, etc.
In contrast, my fleet had something like 47 people in it, and we obliterated the CCP Vindi fleet in 8V. We had something like 120+ kills for about half a dozen losses before we went home. Our fleet was based on a solid doctrine of mutually supportive ships, with all fleet roles filled before we ever left home. We bring a balanced fleet, not just a gaggle of DPS boats spamming F1, everyone has a role and is expected to fill it.
Given that this level of co-ordination was impossible with the high sec fleets, the odds were stacked against them from the start, no matter if they outnumbered us 10 to 1.

Like I said, it's just a game. I had fun even when I screwed up, and landed directly in the middle of an enemy fleet. I swear I could hear them laughing across the internet as they melted my ship and podded me in seconds. I just wiped off the clone goo and fired up another ship to rejoin the fight.

Many from the nulsec alliances in attendance believe CCP led Event Participants to their dooms to appease those who had been affected by a recent system crash which caused the premature end of a major battle.

Conspiracy Theory;
Large Nulsec group is involved in a major fight, unplanned so server node not reinforced, server crashes leaving large nulsec entity somewhat peeved.

CCP did in fact plan on using NPC titans to bridge event attendees to the battleground (explains why new "staging" route experienced so much TIDI as nodes were not reinforced)

To appease large nulsec entity, CCP decided to not use NPC titans and simply move staging for the event to a place (places) where the nulsec entity was known to be staging. (Meet in Sarum Prime for the event, now move 20 jumps to the staging area?)

Due to Tidi, poorly organised fleets and poor communication, event participant fleets were spread out like an overgrown grapevine.

CCP knowing the event would end in a slaughter at the hands of vastly superior nulsec fleets, had prearranged the end of the event. Many of those who managed to make it to (or close to) the event location, were informed the event was over. (the slaughter of the empire fleets was still going on)

The outcome was inevitable; Nulsec entities were to some extent appeased by CCP handing them a LOT of relatively risk free kills. CCp will find a positive way to spin this as a successful event and use it for future advertising.

***This is as stated a wild theory and is not in any way based on truth

Want to buy another plex?

YOU HAVE TO BE F*^%#^ JOKING?!


Hopefully they will come to their senses on Monday.

Please CCP
This is no longer nullbears vs carebears,or discussing incompetence and implementation, the very ethics and structure of the company are now being ridiculed in major internet widely read sources.

This has gone beyond a disaster and has turned into an extinction level event.

This really needs an emergency response.

People on the Forums are begging for answers before we decide how we can justify being able to continue playing this game.
There are clearly many more on the internet who are deciding now without the benefit of your response.
This is of a massively greater magnitude than anything that has EVER happened before. IGNORING IT is just making things worse.

Please at least a short statement calling for calm.And assure people it is being treated seriously.