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Did CCP actually do that?

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AetomHaert Mother
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-11-08 06:17:35 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
ALI Virgo wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
FC said "jump [into 0.0 system]", I turned my ship 180 degrees and jumped back to high-sec instead. I was 100% sure it was a trap. 200+ ships in the fleet popped needlessly - along with ~800 more ships in other fleets.

Now I feel myself like an oracle (+ some guilt for leaving fleet instead of trying to stop them). However it's pretty simple to predict outcome of CCP's actions since Incarna: you just have to assume they'll fail in the hardest way possible.

lol nice. you could have fought as one and lived. warp to gate to zero after you send outa scout. get dash board. all jump hold cloke call primary aligin pew pew pew..etc ya know noob stuff


There weren't too many primary calls because null fleets had spies: they knew exact names of our FCs and popped them instantly. Also they knew exactly when and where our scouts were at any given moment.

Whole thing became un-fun right when devs suggested to jump 33 systems away from Jita. When they've suggested to jump into null it turned into trap so obvious and stupid that people couldn't believe their own common sense (which says "CCP's only motivation is selling you more GTCs to compensate your time and ISK losses, you shouldn't trust them").



Oh my. Cry more please.

You should be lambasting CCP for some lack of preparation here, but it has nothing to do with fools thinking that a jaunt through lowsec into 0.0 will get them killed.

Where CCP failed was in keeping the rout reinforced to prevent stupid tidi (the amount of tidi, not the stupidity of it.) and making sur that players would be able to get from Sendaya to doril in decent order. If you think that the location doomed the live event, you are even more half whited than your previous statement makes you sound. At EVERY SINGLE LIVE EVENT EVER some **** in your cheerios group has been there to do just that. If you think that Goons were not going to have a fleet there to shoot at "Highsec pubbies" then you are ******* stupid. If you think that Snuffbox or Tri mk8 or PL wouldn't be there for some cheap laughs at you, you are probably missing more than a few brain cells.

I am just butthurt because an Aeon moonwalked out of tackle because we couldn't get a fleet bridged through your TiDi mess quick enough.
Abulurd Boniface
CORE BUSINESS
#42 - 2013-11-08 06:24:04 UTC
I read 'Go to Stacmon', then 'Go to Lhal'.

Afterwards the goal was to go to the zoo, and not just any part of the zoo, freak show central. I couldn't wrap my head around why anyone would actually want to do this or in that fashion.

I smelled a big rat but I would have taken the bait, anything for a weird life, if it hadn't been for the 10% TiDi that made the warp to gate take between 2 to 3 minutes, sans alignment, sans jumping through.

I didn't feel like getting my ass handed to me in slow motion after spending at least an hour paddling through the molasses and so I docked up.

One of my better decisions this year.
Alaric Faelen
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2013-11-08 07:03:03 UTC
The only players that lost, were those that didn't participate.

Doesn't matter whether people came out in kitchen sink high sec fleets, or shiny null sec doctrines. Just so long as they came out to play. CCP didn't create an ounce of content with their live event.....the players that undocked and came out to fight created the content. It's CCP that owes you a thanks.

For the new PvP'ers and care bears that showed up- GF's to you. Don't let the people too scared to lose fake spaceships pee in your Cheerios. You came out, fought and died. That's all any of us did. Hopefully you had fun. Hopefully you realize that being blown up in a game is still fun.
If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#44 - 2013-11-08 07:50:40 UTC
Alaric Faelen wrote:
If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded.

I'm sure those high-sec dwellers who normally lose 1-5bill worth pirate battleships were very impressed with "sudden" loss (live events = popping) of their expendable fleet issue / t3 ships and surely they will run into warm embraces of null and low alliances who offer high taxes, LP-only missions, hours-long roams in TiDi and all other sorts of time-sinks.

For me this event was totally successful: it confirmed my idea how CCP is falling apart since Incarna and cannot offer anything new.
Tasarin Markov
HellrisCorp
#45 - 2013-11-08 08:47:50 UTC
Hey just want to say thanks for such a warm welcome into Null Sec! While i did loose my ship, not at the gate camp but at the Station, it does make me wonder how peoplecan play the same game i play and not pay attention at all and think that no one would possibly ever mess with a CCP live event?
Alaric Faelen
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2013-11-08 09:11:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Alaric Faelen
Lipbite, wow, someone else who's never been to null sec, opining on it nonetheless.

Not only is pretty much every assertion you made utterly incorrect, but it's telling that it's pretty much about PvE.

Care bears do not normally lose ships in high sec. In fact it's so uncommon as to set off a new whine thread when it does happen. It's so uncommon that PvE is reduced to 3rd party websites that tell you every damage to tank, deal, spawn triggers....and of course how high sec needs to be totally safe.
In contrast, we fly entire fleets of expensive ships, fully expecting losses. Losing a billion isk boosting Tengu is just a risk we take with every fleet. One good pipebombing could wipe out more isk in a single fleet than entire high sec alliances have in their wallets.

I live in null sec and haven't run an LP mission since I was a newb in high sec. Sov null, of course, doesn't have agents in our stations, so once again, completely incorrect assumptions. Must have never been there.

We pay the same tax as NPC corps/POCO's- but I also get my ships moved by carrier for free, anything I manufacture moved to high sec markets by jump freighter (I cant fly them, so it's a favor for someone else to do it) for free, entire fitted ships in a corp hangar, free skillbooks, an SRP so flying PvP is for all intents and purposes- free to me. By no means have I ever contributed to my alliance as much as I've received in support from them.

TiDi is a local event, and a roam would not spend long in it unless actively in a fight. Once again, this seems like something you don't actually have any experience with.

Spreading false information as an excuse for your own choices in gameplay doesn't do anyone a service. You are demonstrably wrong in virtually every claim you make. I only hope new players don't end up actually believing your nonsense.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#47 - 2013-11-08 10:07:48 UTC
Soon, we will read about "High sec empire loosing control, empire capsuleers slaughtered, everything went better than expected." Lol
Trii Seo
I too am gay
#48 - 2013-11-08 10:13:55 UTC
As someone who was in from the start of it on the pain-dealing side, it was fun. Massive amounts of fun.

CCP led people into a deathtrap, to be quite honest the commanders of faction fleets wouldn't have fc'd for long because they were sent home via the pod highway really quickly. What you've got to realize is, there wasn't a massive blob of CFC forces like those you see during sov timer battles. In fact, last I saw it CFC fleets in 8V- were outnumbered by CONCORD supporting fleets. Our AHAC gang numbered 30, Goons had a tad more but it certainly wasn't in hundreds.

I think the moral of the story is simple: don't trust the CONCORD, don't trust the empires, get your own FCs and form your own fleets.

All things said, we didn't exactly "mess with the event" - we had an objective, prevent the evil popo from destroying the laboratories of our good ol' Serpentis pals. Op was a success on our side.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#49 - 2013-11-08 10:17:15 UTC
Yeah, CCP played dumb and ignorant empire FC. Live event like no other. Lol
KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#50 - 2013-11-08 10:30:58 UTC  |  Edited by: KaRa DaVuT
RP: Empire Navies expand call to action against enemy forces

Considering how the battle went with the post above, that the loss by the Empire factions with empire capsuleer sacrifices was expected/planned.

And If the intention was this, then it's a well-played redirect of rage from CCP to the Empire faction in-game. Also we dont have to talk about the fact that, it definitely feeds the Rubicon theme of " the empires are losing their grasp on power."

TL;DR: You have been used, my friends...

And you died gloriously to us, goat gods are pleased with your flesh nomnom =)

Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.

Madgic
Nexis.
Entropic Collective
#51 - 2013-11-08 10:31:17 UTC
Whilst I fully appreciate that the Hisec players got expertly lead to their deaths, we need to spare a thought for the Lowsec, and Null sec players that didn't even make it to the second staging point LOL.

Over 2000 players set off, about 1300 through High and about 700 through low, by the time we got to the staging point, I think there were about 3 left, and on arrival at the staging point, it was clear that TiDi had claimed over 1000 pilots before the event even started.

I guess at least if this marks the end of incursions and the Multiboxing Diva Nerds. then perhaps the 4 hour warp through tar was worth it.

Trii Seo
I too am gay
#52 - 2013-11-08 10:45:06 UTC
Well, the Republic FC was in a Broadsword that went up in flames rather quickly, killed by Brave Newbies - he was dead before we hit the field. As we did, we found the Gallente FC near us in a Phobos and disposed of him equally quickly - if he was calling targets on comms, he would've stopped quickly.

The pod had Auroras and Slaves in, thing tanked like a total brick though. With enough RR on him he could've tanked us fine.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Judiciary Pag
Usually Harmless
#53 - 2013-11-08 11:04:09 UTC
CCP, I'm fine with messy, laggy and hilariously chaotic events, so please don't feel discouraged by all the rage here ...just, don't make us travel 20+ jumps through heavy TIDI again, ever :p
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#54 - 2013-11-08 14:10:18 UTC
Alaric Faelen wrote:
The only players that lost, were those that didn't participate.

Doesn't matter whether people came out in kitchen sink high sec fleets, or shiny null sec doctrines. Just so long as they came out to play. CCP didn't create an ounce of content with their live event.....the players that undocked and came out to fight created the content. It's CCP that owes you a thanks.

For the new PvP'ers and care bears that showed up- GF's to you. Don't let the people too scared to lose fake spaceships pee in your Cheerios. You came out, fought and died. That's all any of us did. Hopefully you had fun. Hopefully you realize that being blown up in a game is still fun.
If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded.


This is prolly the best thing that i have read on any of these Live event threads. +100000000 to this guy, he is winning EVE and gets it.

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com

Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#55 - 2013-11-08 14:15:23 UTC
Alaric Faelen wrote:
Lipbite, wow, someone else who's never been to null sec, opining on it nonetheless.

Not only is pretty much every assertion you made utterly incorrect, but it's telling that it's pretty much about PvE.

Care bears do not normally lose ships in high sec. In fact it's so uncommon as to set off a new whine thread when it does happen. It's so uncommon that PvE is reduced to 3rd party websites that tell you every damage to tank, deal, spawn triggers....and of course how high sec needs to be totally safe.
In contrast, we fly entire fleets of expensive ships, fully expecting losses. Losing a billion isk boosting Tengu is just a risk we take with every fleet. One good pipebombing could wipe out more isk in a single fleet than entire high sec alliances have in their wallets.

I live in null sec and haven't run an LP mission since I was a newb in high sec. Sov null, of course, doesn't have agents in our stations, so once again, completely incorrect assumptions. Must have never been there.

We pay the same tax as NPC corps/POCO's- but I also get my ships moved by carrier for free, anything I manufacture moved to high sec markets by jump freighter (I cant fly them, so it's a favor for someone else to do it) for free, entire fitted ships in a corp hangar, free skillbooks, an SRP so flying PvP is for all intents and purposes- free to me. By no means have I ever contributed to my alliance as much as I've received in support from them.

TiDi is a local event, and a roam would not spend long in it unless actively in a fight. Once again, this seems like something you don't actually have any experience with.

Spreading false information as an excuse for your own choices in gameplay doesn't do anyone a service. You are demonstrably wrong in virtually every claim you make. I only hope new players don't end up actually believing your nonsense.

You sir should run for the CSM.....or President of what ever country you are from. I'll vote you.

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com

Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#56 - 2013-11-08 14:19:25 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Alaric Faelen wrote:
If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded.

I'm sure those high-sec dwellers who normally lose 1-5bill worth pirate battleships were very impressed with "sudden" loss (live events = popping) of their expendable fleet issue / t3 ships and surely they will run into warm embraces of null and low alliances who offer high taxes, LP-only missions, hours-long roams in TiDi and all other sorts of time-sinks.

For me this event was totally successful: it confirmed my idea how CCP is falling apart since Incarna and cannot offer anything new.


I feel that this game has only improved since Incarna, so I don't understand how you can say it is falling apart. The only problem with there event was in was in in the USTZ. Then I could have been there.

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com

1Robert McNamara1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2013-11-08 15:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: 1Robert McNamara1
Sad I missed this.

All hail our new Angel overlords!
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-11-08 15:23:19 UTC
Peter Dostoevsky wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
So CCP Awoxed the highsec pubbies. Well done CCP, there is hope for you yet.


I was hoping that at least a few would make it into 8V- so that I could ***** on kills in a stealth bomber.

Alas, I was only able to ***** on the Brave Newbies fleet.

made it there, collected some loot, returned to Dodixie in perfect condition

However it does not mean that this event didn't failed hardly

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-11-08 15:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Those that might be tired of high sec might actually like what happened even if they died in a ball of fire.

you mean:
- bad FCing and coordination
- waiting for any information from leaders
- heavy TiDi
- useless death in gate camp
?

yea, i've heard that sometime victim of **** gets used to it and needs to be raped again Shocked

but these are very rare cases (i think) Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Petar Harad
Justified and Ancient
#60 - 2013-11-08 15:35:22 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Would you rather CCP magicked everyone to the fight?
I'm sure every pilot on the null-sec side slow boated to the op and that there was absolutely no involvement of any magic...bridging.Roll

...without the signatures, the world has descended into chaos. No one knows how long we have left...CCP Falcon