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Team Avatar and the future of our prototype

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#2821 - 2013-11-04 14:42:56 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Hey people, it's me again, ready to burst some bubbles.


CQ is a different environment that FIS, WIS would be like that CQ too. Two different environments, so no ships flying outside windows in real time, no seamless undocking in real time. The avatar environment was made from scratch, and was made separately from the FIS, so to avoid the 1 sec tick, and not to spoil Jita with perma TIDI hitting when 10 people will try to go to the space bathroom and flush the water.

So no, no seamless FIS and WIS, the boundary is technical in nature, and it's there not to break the environment we all know from the beginning.

Inside the WIS environment outside window you could just add some ships flying, like in the station docking bay. Or a planet, in the manner the orientation and kind of planet would work like a doubled part of the FIS in WIS. I see it as the only way to do that.


Wack cam outside station in fis, stream through twitch, project on wall in wis, done.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2822 - 2013-11-04 17:34:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Pak Narhoo wrote:

Wack cam outside station in fis, stream through twitch, project on wall in wis, done.


But this is not a window, right? This will be a jita cam, not the actual FIS environment seen outside when walking in station interior. Streaming isn't build in the game as for now. I seriously doubt it will ever be.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Jadiss
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
#2823 - 2013-11-04 20:11:55 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:

Wack cam outside station in fis, stream through twitch, project on wall in wis, done.


But this is not a window, right? This will be a jita cam, not the actual FIS environment seen outside when walking in station interior. Streaming isn't build in the game as for now. I seriously doubt it will ever be.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ7yEgVRYP8 Smile
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2824 - 2013-11-05 00:29:24 UTC
Twitch is going be integrated into EVE. Don't know I'f this means we will be able to watch broadcasts in game though.
None ofthe Above
#2825 - 2013-11-05 00:46:03 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Twitch is going be integrated into EVE. Don't know I'f this means we will be able to watch broadcasts in game though.


Twitch capture is going to be integrated into EVE. So you'll be able to stream from the EVE Client, but not to it.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#2826 - 2013-11-05 12:29:44 UTC
WiS and FiS don't need to be syncronized in real time. And if there are windows then a texture matching the region/system background is enough. Eventually some fake ship flying like in the hangar view
None ofthe Above
#2827 - 2013-11-05 17:32:59 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
WiS and FiS don't need to be syncronized in real time. And if there are windows then a texture matching the region/system background is enough. Eventually some fake ship flying like in the hangar view


I actually would love to be able to look out the window before undocking. Although perhaps that would be better done by being able to "borrow" a camera drone from the station.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2828 - 2013-11-06 04:01:27 UTC
Spotted this on the Rubicon website

New female clothing ?
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2829 - 2013-11-06 04:20:33 UTC
stupid double post
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2830 - 2013-11-06 06:41:09 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Spotted this on the Rubicon website

New female clothing ?


Colour is new. The shape was available for them for some time: 1, 2, 3, look at the upper part. It was merged with something what we have currently on the server - this.
Character design isn't something completely new either, they had this technology for years.

So I doubt it will be put in game, this look for me like a bad trolling attempt from CCP " look what we have hahahah, and you will not get it Twisted". Roll


Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2831 - 2013-11-06 07:33:48 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
So I doubt it will be put in game, this look for me like a bad trolling attempt from CCP " look what we have hahahah, and you will not get it Twisted". Roll

Well, at least the avatars are good for commercials and promo material, no? Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2832 - 2013-11-06 07:48:43 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Spotted this on the Rubicon website

New female clothing ?


Colour is new. The shape was available for them for some time: 1, 2, 3, look at the upper part. It was merged with something what we have currently on the server - this.
Character design isn't something completely new either, they had this technology for years.

So I doubt it will be put in game, this look for me like a bad trolling attempt from CCP " look what we have hahahah, and you will not get it Twisted". Roll




The shoulder piece was a "middle" element IIRC, whereas the body was a "top" piece, and they could be used separatedly. So the Rubicon ad shows the "middle" shoulder piece of the white "Dat Ass" set on top of a stock "top" shirt.

And what this means is that CCP marketing guys have no clue on what is in the game. We're talking about the guys who advertised DUST with a laser Raven... Roll

CCP just abandoned the "actual ingame footage" line a few trailers ago and they're on their way to state "this trailer is an artistic rendering and actual ingame content may differ". Because nothing sells better reheated porridge than the videogame equivalent of a Big Mac advertisement...

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2833 - 2013-11-06 08:08:10 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP just abandoned the "actual ingame footage" line a few trailers ago and they're on their way to state "this trailer is an artistic rendering and actual ingame content may differ". Because nothing sells better reheated porridge than the videogame equivalent of a Big Mac advertisement...

Yup... I mean, sure, then again, most companies these days do that... I just didn't expect CCP to do it.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#2834 - 2013-11-06 17:13:24 UTC
Never gonna give you up
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#2835 - 2013-11-06 17:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Mashie Saldana
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Spotted this on the Rubicon website

New female clothing ?


Colour is new. The shape was available for them for some time: 1, 2, 3, look at the upper part. It was merged with something what we have currently on the server - this.
Character design isn't something completely new either, they had this technology for years.

So I doubt it will be put in game, this look for me like a bad trolling attempt from CCP " look what we have hahahah, and you will not get it Twisted". Roll



It wasn't merged with what we have, it was simply not released.

How to win EVE
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#2836 - 2013-11-06 18:05:04 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP just abandoned the "actual ingame footage" line a few trailers ago and they're on their way to state "this trailer is an artistic rendering and actual ingame content may differ". Because nothing sells better reheated porridge than the videogame equivalent of a Big Mac advertisement...

Yup... I mean, sure, then again, most companies these days do that... I just didn't expect CCP to do it.


I agree it does show a desperate lowering of the standards. In a sense CCP is admitting that their game isn't good enough to sell on it's merits. Very, very sad...

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Gungnir Winder
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2837 - 2013-11-06 21:29:02 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP just abandoned the "actual ingame footage" line a few trailers ago and they're on their way to state "this trailer is an artistic rendering and actual ingame content may differ". Because nothing sells better reheated porridge than the videogame equivalent of a Big Mac advertisement...

Yup... I mean, sure, then again, most companies these days do that... I just didn't expect CCP to do it.


I agree it does show a desperate lowering of the standards. In a sense CCP is admitting that their game isn't good enough to sell on it's merits. Very, very sad...


I don't agree.

A trailer is something that gets you excited, it gives you a feeling of what the final product will be, it's not just an ad.

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#2838 - 2013-11-06 23:49:37 UTC
Gungnir Winder wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP just abandoned the "actual ingame footage" line a few trailers ago and they're on their way to state "this trailer is an artistic rendering and actual ingame content may differ". Because nothing sells better reheated porridge than the videogame equivalent of a Big Mac advertisement...

Yup... I mean, sure, then again, most companies these days do that... I just didn't expect CCP to do it.


I agree it does show a desperate lowering of the standards. In a sense CCP is admitting that their game isn't good enough to sell on it's merits. Very, very sad...


I don't agree.

A trailer is something that gets you excited, it gives you a feeling of what the final product will be, it's not just an ad.


I aways hate those trailers that have small print at the bottom of the screen saying 'not game footage' I always think 'why are you lying to me, if the game was that good you'd show actual game footage' until recently CCP have never needed to lie because they had a grade A product that they were proud to show off to the world. So I reiterate it's a sad slipping of standards to resort to such shameless attempts at hype marketing. The hype should be about what happens in the game, awesome player driven events, true stories from the player community. Not pretty graphics that's unavailable to you or stuff you cant get in game.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Karaburan
Perkone
Caldari State
#2839 - 2013-11-07 00:31:08 UTC
142 pages now, wow, clearly people care about this stuff. The idea of EVA is to me awesome and IMO the way to go on the investment that has already been made by CCP. Big bold changes are important. Eve is getting stale with all of these "fixes" that the bitter vets keep clamoring for. Yeah it's nice to have UI improvements and the like. Ship re-balancing is nice but they only keep a few of us interested for short periods of time. I am greatly relieved to hear there are still people thinking big things. If this game is going to continue to grow we need big things that provide a completely new experience. BZ CCP.

If you are going to "fix" big things like sovereignty and super-capitals, you need big solutions. like the intro to the game once said be bold pilot.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2840 - 2013-11-07 07:54:27 UTC
Gungnir Winder wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP just abandoned the "actual ingame footage" line a few trailers ago and they're on their way to state "this trailer is an artistic rendering and actual ingame content may differ". Because nothing sells better reheated porridge than the videogame equivalent of a Big Mac advertisement...

Yup... I mean, sure, then again, most companies these days do that... I just didn't expect CCP to do it.


I agree it does show a desperate lowering of the standards. In a sense CCP is admitting that their game isn't good enough to sell on it's merits. Very, very sad...


I don't agree.

A trailer is something that gets you excited, it gives you a feeling of what the final product will be, it's not just an ad.


Well, for some reason, CCP used to sell the product, like this:

Player acting, player footage, player music. This is EVE Online!

And then they just started selling... something else.

Wadafak, modafaka? Are you on crack?

I dare you to find 10... no, 5 similarities between that trailer above and the actual game. Roll

And it hasn't improved much. New players are now fed with a intro video displaying the pod as a cockpit... and i bet you that Rubicon trailer will have less than 50% actual ingame content to it, beauty shots of ships & stuff included.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you