EVE General Discussion

Well to their defense in all this, they did spoke of a vision. Again. They did mention going beyond the point of no return, players growing more independent and gaining more and more control.

In this vision fit the issues EVE is suffering from. Sov, screwed up structure mechanics, hell even PvE. People can invest over 20 million USD (I almost typed ISK there... wow, someone's suffering serious withdrawals.) into a project ran by someone who once failed to deliver on a massive scale, of which in total they know nothing solid about (last I recall, even prototypes of spaceflight/combat mechanics aren't yet done) but a bunch of "will be done" promises and concept art.

Saying "Chris Roberts will deliver on his vision" is exactly the same as saying "CCP will deliver on their vision".

Shows how far you can joyride on your rep alone. The same idea (a useless room to walk around in) put in at a different time (It's a demo! vs. It's an actual feature) by different people (Nostalgia-is-back Chris Roberts vs. CCP who at the time already had their rep not exactly great, having neglected a lot of issues) almost sinks one and brings millions to the other.

That said, what we need to see is EVE in a year - with parts of the new Vision vs. released StarCitizen (it's coming next year, doesn't it? Bloody fast, that). See how actual, you know, content holds up to players. Sure there will be those who embrace the vision of Mr. Roberts - but there also will be munchkins. Like goons. Who will break it.

Close enough to next year, still bloody fast too. There really isn't much to be informed about, I'm just surprised so many people threw money for the name and a few promises. It will very likely never happen the way people think it will.

It'll be released as Roberts's great vision, since there will be no publisher to tell him to hold his horses. His fans will righteously clobber anyone trying to oppose the Great Producer. In the end, it will wind up brilliant. Of course, for a while people will follow the great vision but then communities - such as the Goons (who won't skip the game, I think they're already forming up for the fun) - will deploy the munchkinism (and space communism while it's about goons). People will play to win and have little care for the great vision.

Plus, there's always the little bit called 'gameplay'. Things like the hangar/captain's quarters get old fast when you're meant to play a game for months or years...

It's actually nice that CCP has a playerbase capable of pulling off a Summer of Rage. Not many companies can be held in check by their own players.

Everyone said Star Trek Online would kill EVE, it didn't.

Star Citizens won't kill EVE either, the only thing that can kill EVE is CCP.

I agree. But note, although there are some very upset people at SC and CRoberts here, nobody said that Star Citizen would kill EVE. I hope they live healthy together and for a long time.

Matter of fact next year I'm gonna nominate Minmatar Citizen 20120210 for CSM along with my usual candidates Gorski Car and PsychoBitch.

Nope, you got it wrong again. We should stop being concerned that SC will flop because Chris Roberts is not Hillmar Petersun or David Reid and CIG and the other SC development teams are not CCP.

No, "she" is just trolling now... *shrugs*

You can't seriously vote for PsychoBitch. Sure, they want WiS content and I agree, but they are also a foaming at the mouth ret*rd.

Here's the thing more ressembling a oficial answer:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3643709#post3643709

(bolds are mine)



So, concerning avatar gameplay:

- it's not on the roadmap
- would not be in EVE, rather in some another game
- EVE is a spaceships game
- for further clarification on how TARFU you are, ask Hilmar

You may wonder why we do keep insisting, then. The answer is pretty obvious: we're serious about this lost cause, and currently there is no reason to give up.

If EVE was dead, well, that would be a reason to give up. But as long as people can change their minds, persons can be hired or fired, companies can change their ways and stakeholders can ask for results, there is nothing lost to keep beating the undead horse.

49,1% of CCP is owned by people who are in it for the money. Maybe they could start wondering why there is money in Star Citizen and not in the Hallelujah Plan.

And all in all... it's just a video game.

TL:DR - CCP is inapt and/or short sighted... take your pick.

Nah, that's not fair... the game had it's fun moments.