EVE General Discussion

Why thank you, I aim to please.

That said, I don't think it's going to **** - I actually think things are looking up, barring the entertaining SOMER drama I care quite little about.

I agree. Please let us know when avatar gameplay development is complete and EVE development is continued, so we can then give CCP some more of our money.

I think that since then, CCP Bayesian mentioned that Team Avatar was reassigned to other tasks.

Yeaaa that kind of says "hey we canned the project."

Still, with talks about NEX store and new cosmetic items being released we may see this mess sorted in a nice way - though WiS is still way off.

Well I don't exactly see a massive drop in amount of people logged in. Hell, it's been going up since Incarna so even despite the upcoming second coming of dogfighter genre CCP is doing something right.

Riiight and that's in no way tied to the usual climb of PLEX prices around this time of the year if I recall or new services that were introduced.

Like multi-character training. For PLEX.

CCP have regularly re-emphasised that it's on hold, not cancelled. CCP's promises don't mean anything to me, but again, that's besides the point. CCP will still have the prototype, they can uncancel it given appropriate pressure.



That's because historically we see very high active player numbers this close to an expansion release.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Your right, they are not dropping. They are not going up as expected though either. Bear in mind that there is always a lowering of subs and active players after the novelty of a new expansion wears off. If this expansion doesn't raise subs and activity in the mean time, that lowering of subs will be a crash below the norm.



It is a weak hypothesis to tie PLEX prices to number of subs, but that said PLEX prices should have dropped dramatically recently with the massive influx of cheap PLEX accidentally sold by Amazon. Not gone up.

Regarding subscription numbers and PCU, they're hovering around the line of neutral to light positive growth, despite the massive stimuli they are receiving.

The fact is that 2011 was CCP's best year ever. Even with Summer of Rage killing the growth in the 2nd semester of 2011, 2010-2011 had the biggest revenue increase ever.

Since then, they've been putting a lot more effort in marketing (selling the game) and have obtained a slight growth. Run a lot faster, advance far less.

Something was making them grow fast until 2011, and since 2011 they're struggling to keep the numbers up.

And then, what, oh WHAT, was CCP doing until 2011, and haven't done since?

They were chasing a vision. A vision shared by the players. A vision that thrilled everyone.

Now they have abandoned the vision. Have replaced it with endless housekeeping chores. And albeit they have announced a new vision, turns that nobody asked it and nobody is even minimally interested with it. Even now there are more players interested with WiS than with the Hallelujah Plan, despite the former is barely alive and the later is new born.

Meanwhile a game that still doesn't exists already haves more unique users than EVE just by promising a vision.

It's never about what you want to sell, but about what others want to buy.

And what a vision it is

I just love the cockpit view so far
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13349-Press-Roundup

and the images and vids on the forum

Yes. From a long term perspective the last grow is for the segment Trinity - Apocrypha. After this the trend is stagnant and stable on 30k (with cyclic peaks and drops).

But those data generally means nothing since do not take in count the relative market numbers: aaving stable numbers in a market that is growing like the hell is not a success. 0 is bettter than -1, but keep having 0 for years when MMORPG market around grows +400% for years means you're doing something wrong. Mostly when you don't have direct competitors.