EVE General Discussion

Nah, is true that bounties and killrights system, the crimewatch revamp, and the few things in the last expansion were aimed not to high sec as game area but to a specific set of players. Also the whole ship rebalancing is basically an huge, indirect nerf to T2 ships (these were added to the game just to cater to hardcore PvPer) and an indirect, huge nerf to PvP risks/costs.

I'm not saying this is bad; but CCP perfectly see where 70-80 % of their playerbase prefer to play, and is not in null. Always been so and these proportions are not going to change.

But WiS is in no way related to this, they use the priority excuse to justify the fact that they're not doing anything relevant in any direction. WiS is trasversal, as could be the new POS system and any other strategic EVE development.

It's simply they are working on something else :)

Maaybe having a rack of several titles (even if not properly developed) to show is better in case, in the future, one would to sell; is added value for the company.

By PvP I mean destroying ships. But EVE is more than that. An empty belt is PvP. A lower or higher order is PvP. Getting first is PvP. If EVE was just about destroying ships, it would be just a glorified Dark Orbit.

For different reasons, CCP talking about the issue among others, some expected to set up a shop, make a shady deal or much more, as PvP. I still dream of playing politics as PvP. I would like to be the person you must talk to when the Amarran empire blackouts all your accounts and you can't deal with its stations. Or maybe be the one asking the right NPC to do exactly that to you, for the good of the Empire (and of your war targets, who paid me to do exactly that). Of course, that's because i'm a dreamer, something that CCP is seriously missing.

And that's exactly the problem... the only thing CCP is constantly revisiting is ship2ship PvP... yea, and explorations, but we know how that turned out... industry, science, trading, etc. all that has been pretty much the same for last 10 years. The only thing new that came in that regard was PI, and that is equally boring/convoluted like everything else non "pew pew" related.

As a predominately 0.0 type player who's spent a fair bit of time out there with other players of a similar mindset - WiS is important to us.

I think the attempt to split WiS into a non-pvp vs pvp battle does the whole thing a disservice. I want WiS.

Many of the other pvpers that I know want WiS - not all but most.

There is a -lot- that can be done with WiS that would augment the overall gameplay experience regardless if someone is a pvper or a "carebear."

I really want CCP to finish it by linking it directly to the rest of the game (things like viewscreens, camera drones, communications channels, strategy type rooms, planning displays, war tables - etc) in a meaningful manner.

I met some people who recently were talking about starting up in EVE and had never done so before. One of the first questions I was asked, "Can we see our characters and interact directly?"

When I said, "No, but you can do stuff together in space in your ships" there was a definite loss of interest. In fact, none of them bothered to sign up because they didn't want to be spaceships. I tried to explain that they were capsuleers but, apparently, my explanations didn't work.

I believe that WiS would benefit the game. I think it would expand the appeal of the game. But, then again, it also would depend on the implementation. I don't think that WiS would take anything away from the rest of the game. After all, people who aren't interested in WiS wouldn't have to participate just like how people who don't want to mine don't have to.

I still hope that it'll happen.

Alright so my constant tech "Resources!" "Time!" "PvP!" "HTFU!" aside:

The thing that always bothered me as a person is how samey the hangars look. A forward staging point, haphazardly estabilished before the conflict even started looks exactly the same way a crowded main invasion outpost does. Despite the fact that the latter houses several thousand people worth of ships and combat equipment and the other a handful of weirdos.

Similarily, a station that has been long held as a capital of an alliance looks the same way a station that was recently shelled by dreadnought fire. It would be cool if we saw changes depending on how hangars are stocked, how many people are based there at the moment and what state the station is in.

Let a forward outpost have this feel of a worn down, semi-abandoned station nobody visits. Let a big outpost housing the bulk of invading force have cargo drones buzz around with crates of ammo, tow ships with a returning fleet pass by as they dock. Let stations long held by an alliance (go by sov index of the system?) look cooler, more polished, maybe with logos of the holding alliance.

And finally, a reinforced/under attack or recently conquered station. Debris? Flame/smoke particle effects? Repair bots scurrying about patching holes in the wall?

Would be a cool thing and would not generate the need to load captain's quarters on each dock-up. Hell, maybe add some way to customize the place - nothing says home like some Sansha spikes in your hangar.

This I'd like too, not only CQ but also station models. And new pirate station model for NPC null should be added, so, yes, sansha station should have their own models. One thing that always bothered me is the lack of spacescape characterization.

They started to fix this in Crucibble, and did a great job with the region based backgrounds, but then they stopped it too.

Well, I play with databases all day and I wouldn't mind betting that you can change the ship stats in an instant just by pressing save. Balancing don't rub off that well on me as I think it's a disguise for all of the things that CCP are doing on the side such as Dust, WOD and now Valkyrie, like anyone intelligent honestly believes that a couple of talented developers had some spare time and put together a prototype. It's bullshit, stuff like Valkyrie takes months of development time from whole teams of developers.

That's why there's no WIS, our so called expansions we've been getting contain about as much effort and code changes that would have gone into a patch when I first started playing. CCP is cheating the player base and I feel quite abused by this.

Agreed.

I'm not reading a blog because you can't be bothered to put together your own reply.

It's actually TMC and a good article on its own. EVE players are damn crazy and on some levels it leaks out to RL. Hell, look at the fanfest disaster that made The Mittani lose his CSM chair. Back in many other games you usually get a crowd of neckbeards that at most will post up a nice ragepost on the forums.

EVE has smart IT/Law/Science neckbeards, military/ex-military neckbeards and russians. It's all stuffed into a single big container where they're conditioned to poke each other with sticks and be bastards. Adding drama and valuable things to the mix is like creating a nice petroleum/air mixture: all you need is a spark, then you can put sunglasses on and watch it go.

Oh, and roast popcorn to eat while behelding drama, hilarious plans (LV titan power cutting, mentioned), forum dumps, DoSing, drunken insults at Fanfest and the resulting backlash... list goes on. EVE is so metagamey, the metagame is EVE.