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Team Avatar and the future of our prototype

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2661 - 2013-10-23 13:48:50 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Meanwhile in SC: 24 mil has ben reached, revealing the inclusion of cap ship crew stations... so the 20 people a carrier will hold will all be able to actually do something on board... in PERSON.

...and on goes the discussion. Blink


But, but... we got a painted-on cybernetic arm! (for a mere 150 €/$).


lol, they charged only 150$ for it, I bet 75% of the ppl that ordered it would've bought it for 200$ for a second mystery code ingame item.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2662 - 2013-10-23 13:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
We all know the synonym of luxury is at least cloth made of virgin chinchilla eyelashes with the nanofiber tubes finish and NOT a generic art on it. Shame on you CCP.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2663 - 2013-10-23 13:56:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Debora Tsung wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Meanwhile in SC: 24 mil has ben reached, revealing the inclusion of cap ship crew stations... so the 20 people a carrier will hold will all be able to actually do something on board... in PERSON.

...and on goes the discussion. Blink


But, but... we got a painted-on cybernetic arm! (for a mere 150 €/$).


lol, they charged only 150$ for it, I bet 75% of the ppl that ordered it would've bought it for 200$ for a second mystery code ingame item.


In a way, CCP Zulu was right. Some people will buy 1,000 $ jeans, as long as you're not selling them 1,000 $ jeans. Lol

What is just ironical, is that the ones getting avatar apparel are people who didn't wanted it until they saw it, and meanwhile we who are wanting that kind of **** since 2011, won't get it until (maybe-somehow-they have a plan to-soon) the NEx store is redesigned as a external store next year.

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2664 - 2013-10-23 15:12:59 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
We all know the synonym of luxury is at least cloth made of virgin chinchilla eyelashes with the nanofiber tubes finish and NOT a generic art on it. Shame on you CCP.

Teehee, nice David Braben quote there. Blink

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#2665 - 2013-10-24 16:24:35 UTC
Not sure what to make of it, but the into the second decade book from the CE was in my opinion, at least slightly encouraging and stating some points we have made in this thread time and time again, among them that DUST assets could perhaps be uplifted to EVE, and that they are interested in making EVE "whole" eventually, but that it is as always in hands of the players and the CSM.

At least what little browse through I did gave me this impression.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2666 - 2013-10-25 07:41:50 UTC
Why we need toilets:


Quote:
Assuming you've overcome the perils of gravity, you still need to go occasionally for number one and number two. And yet, there are no toilets in the future. Spaceships are poop-free zones, aliens have magical nappies that filtrate their urine better than those special suites in Dune.

Where did all toilets go? Don't our heroes need to relax now and then, have a read? Doesn't Picard get a clenching moment now and then? Wasn't Snake Plissken afraid when he EMP-ed the world?

Now, let's consider the actual sewage capacity of a modern spaceship. Take a 1,000-crew ship, with equal half-male half-female population. Using today's world eating and hygiene statistics, we're talking five to six urinal trips and an average one Zen-like moment per crewmember a day, resulting in about two liters of fluid and 400-gr turding. With no special bacteria to bio-degrade the waste, we're amassing 400 kg of browncake and two tons of lemonjuice every single day. This translates into 700 hundred tons of peepee and 150 tons of cacky a year, and this is a conservative estimate. Where do you put all that? Or do you just eject all that into space?

Imagine, bio-warfare between rival ships. As they swoop past another, you get them showered with your waste. And if they don't have any window wipers, they end up with polluted starscape until the next visit in an orbital maintenance shop.

Better yet, since the vacuum is fairly cold, ejected feces turn into solid ice instantly. So with some knowledge of ballistics and good timing, you can use human excrements as kinetic weapons. If you fire them from your ship when moving at great speed, you can create a meteor shower of unprecedented physical and psychological impact. You can even use the gravitational pull of nearby stars and planets to make your dung accelerate, becoming even deadlier. Theoretically, you can have a 1,000-ton kinetic projectile created from inedible parts of human diet, available for launching at 20 km/sec, at your disposal. Farts have never been more dangerous.

And so the space weapons become pissiles and turdpedoes. Oh man, what a moment of poetic brilliance. Now, this is what I call - biological warfare! Yeah! I win!


From here: www.dedoimedo.com/physics/sci-fi-mistakes.html/
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#2667 - 2013-10-25 16:02:33 UTC
Quote:

Better yet, since the vacuum is fairly cold, ejected ***** turn into solid ice instantly.


This is not true. In a vacuum objects do not loose heat quickly because heat loss is the transfer of energy (usually in the form of vibrations) from one partial to another. If there are no other particles to transfer said energy to (ie in a vacuum), then heat can't be lost.

Things don't freeze instantly in space. Sorry to be a killjoy.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2668 - 2013-10-25 16:32:25 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Quote:

Better yet, since the vacuum is fairly cold, ejected ***** turn into solid ice instantly.


This is not true. In a vacuum objects do not loose heat quickly because heat loss is the transfer of energy (usually in the form of vibrations) from one partial to another. If there are no other particles to transfer said energy to (ie in a vacuum), then heat can't be lost.

Things don't freeze instantly in space. Sorry to be a killjoy.



Heat can also be lost by radiation.

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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#2669 - 2013-10-25 16:52:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Quote:

Better yet, since the vacuum is fairly cold, ejected ***** turn into solid ice instantly.


This is not true. In a vacuum objects do not loose heat quickly because heat loss is the transfer of energy (usually in the form of vibrations) from one partial to another. If there are no other particles to transfer said energy to (ie in a vacuum), then heat can't be lost.

Things don't freeze instantly in space. Sorry to be a killjoy.



Heat can also be lost by radiation.


If I remember correctly, radiated heat loss is much slower.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2670 - 2013-10-25 16:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Hah i know that from Vsauce. But did't know you know it too. :P

The thing is you could prepare turdpedoes before fight by radiating heat to the subsystems of ship. This way you could have the ammuniton for future encounters. Hey, our ancestors, apes, use their dung as a projectiles, and we have more developed brain, so why not use more brain to make those sh!t missiles useful in space. That would be like throwing asteroid, not rocks at your opponent.
Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#2671 - 2013-10-25 17:04:09 UTC
Honestly, you should be able to convert crew waste into PI materials. Biofuels and bacteria?

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#2672 - 2013-10-25 17:17:54 UTC
At one of the Eve Vegas roundtables it was mentioned that one Dev wants to salvage corpses for implants. I suggested they do that via an avatar based mini-game.

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#2673 - 2013-10-25 20:39:54 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
At one of the Eve Vegas roundtables it was mentioned that one Dev wants to salvage corpses for implants. I suggested they do that via an avatar based mini-game.


I have uncovered the prototype.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2674 - 2013-10-25 20:49:55 UTC
Great, carrion picking... how awfully fitting for a game like EVE... you could call that "avatar based gameplay", though.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2675 - 2013-10-25 21:18:35 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Great, carrion picking... how awfully fitting for a game like EVE... you could call that "avatar based gameplay", though.


Doh, just look at this prototype of a replacement for loot scattering.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#2676 - 2013-10-25 21:28:55 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Meanwhile in SC: 24 mil has ben reached, revealing the inclusion of cap ship crew stations... so the 20 people a carrier will hold will all be able to actually do something on board... in PERSON.

...and on goes the discussion. Blink


But, but... we got a painted-on cybernetic arm! (for a mere 150 €/$).


Lets all remember that eve was the original star citizen until the fis fanatics hijacked the community anger over microtransactions and the nex store, we're all poorer for it now...

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2677 - 2013-10-26 09:09:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Meanwhile in SC: 24 mil has ben reached, revealing the inclusion of cap ship crew stations... so the 20 people a carrier will hold will all be able to actually do something on board... in PERSON.

...and on goes the discussion. Blink


But, but... we got a painted-on cybernetic arm! (for a mere 150 €/$).


Lets all remember that eve was the original star citizen until the fis fanatics hijacked the community anger over microtransactions and the nex store, we're all poorer for it now...


Well, EVE without avatar content reminds me of the Black Knight from Monty Python's film. Since 2011, EVE has become a PvP arcade on spreadsheets and the "science fiction" side has taken a "flesh wound" on both arms and a leg.

We can't tell wether Star Citizen will be good or bad, but for sure they're trying to deliver exactly what the players want, whereas CCP doesn't even tries. EVE is EVE and you take it or you leave it. But we're playing EVE because there was games like Privateer, and we play EVE because there were no games like Star Citizen.

EVE's 10 year headstart is unbeatable, but no amount of headstart can beat delivering the real deal instead of EVE. And that, without puzzling your customers with stuff like avoiding to guarantee that Valkyrie will be released for PC + OR.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2678 - 2013-10-26 09:31:23 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
EVE's 10 year headstart is unbeatable, but no amount of headstart can beat delivering the real deal instead of EVE. And that, without puzzling your customers with stuff like avoiding to guarantee that Valkyrie will be released for PC + OR.


Agreed... and why is that? Because EVE these days lacks any clear vision... the moment CCP started to buckle under the pressure of the very "vocal FIS crowd", the game lost any personality.

We may not yet know how SC will turn out to be, but we know one thing for sure: It is, first and foremost, the vision of one man, and he will make it true, no matter what other people say... and the players will love it.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2679 - 2013-10-26 10:16:20 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
EVE's 10 year headstart is unbeatable, but no amount of headstart can beat delivering the real deal instead of EVE. And that, without puzzling your customers with stuff like avoiding to guarantee that Valkyrie will be released for PC + OR.


Agreed... and why is that? Because EVE these days lacks any clear vision... the moment CCP started to buckle under the pressure of the very "vocal FIS crowd", the game lost any personality.

We may not yet know how SC will turn out to be, but we know one thing for sure: It is, first and foremost, the vision of one man, and he will make it true, no matter what other people say... and the players will love it.


That's right. It's a Chris Roberts game, and so you know what to expect (this is why I am not 100% ecstatic with it, as my tastes now are a tad different than when i was younger). This time there's no Microsoft to kick Freelancer into the market when MS wants; there's no producers nor investors nor anyone in charge other than the man himself.

The good news, is that he's a big name of the business. He already was a veteran progammer with a notorious portfolio when CCP were planning to make a board game to fund their space videogame.

The bad news, is that the more you try to accomplish, the largar are the chances of a disastrous blunder.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2680 - 2013-10-26 10:27:35 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
The good news, is that he's a big name of the business. He already was a veteran progammer with a notorious portfolio when CCP were planning to make a board game to fund their space videogame.

The bad news, is that the more you try to accomplish, the largar are the chances of a disastrous blunder.

All true...

...but as far as the, possibly cheesy story and boyish presentation go: Keep in mind, CR also matured over the last 20 years... "Lord of War" and "Lucky Number Slevin" should have thought him a thing or two about story telling, I recon. Blink

Also, it may not say much, but look here - 0:23:00 starts the intresting part.

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