EVE General Discussion

And what makes you think that succesfully burning gasoline is going to keep you warm once the gasoline is gone?

There's nothing less consensual than a sov war, and such wars are effectively destroying the nullsec playerbase and dragging the game behind them.

Right now, CCP is starting a 3-year development plan intended to rescue the "successful" non-consensual PvP of its impending demise, by expanding it to new areas of space with different attributes and mechanics, all because the original plan to use DUST to that purpose is struggling for its life.

In the process, everything not related to non-consensual PvP is likely to be neglected, leaving 70% of the player base with the short end of resources and love.

And all because the successful nullsec sov, non-consensual PvP mechanics are working in all their glory in order to destroy themselves within the next two years.

You don't understand that humans avoid stress.

HAHAHAHA.

Oh my God. I don't think I have ever seen anyone burnt so bad. That's like, full thickness 90% burned. Someone put Vaju on palliative support. You don't survive a burn like that. Ouch.

Non-consensual PvP will not kill itself. Those who walk away after an autocannon-infused reality check will either return for more or were too weak to fight anyway. Those fights merely begin EVE's trademark cycle of destruction - killing someone isn't a way to make peace, it's a way to make him angry and lead to more bloodshed.

The reason sov wars are in a troubled state is that value of those territories decrease. Buffs to non-sov space and repeated nerfs to 0.0 have pushed the value down to the point it's actually more profitable to live outside of it and ninja-plex if anything. Holding sov means paying upkeep, costs of fueling towers, maintaining beacons, bridges and upgrades.

It's often assumed that big empires will ditch territory to reduce cost as their revenue decreases because they won't be able to pay the upkeep. Said assumption is false. Big entities are used to the joys of fat warchests and SRP and their only response is finding a new revenue stream (as of now, Rental) and, if adapting requires it - expansion (war of Fountain, claiming Delve, Querious and Period Basis as an addition.)

Flawed Dominion sov mechanics play their role as well, with structures having massive amounts of hitpoints that require lengthy grinds but as we've seen (statement about 'reasons why we're not going to war' during the FA/TEST reset vs. invasion that followed later) if you provide enough motivation for an invasion - it'll happen.

It'll happen and the war will make the news. Supercapitals will fall, dozens of carriers will become trapped with no way out. Events like the fatal decision to warp fifteen supercarriers to a station of K-6, or the suicidal charge of remaining TEST forces into the fleets sieging 6VDT to take down a Naglfar before they were decimated by unending torrent of rail fire from Baltec megathrons will happen and be remembered. Great heists and battles like Asakai will make the news.

And as long as EVE is EVE, none of it will be a staged, consensual war where two parties agree on a honourable showdown. It won't be a "world-shaping' event put together by the devs once in two years where you merely act out a script put before you. It'll be a clash of empires built by the players - with those defeated facing a threat of being put into the history books of EVE.

Hell, with veterans of those conflicts stories will travel as far as hisec, inspiring new pilots to enlist and join the fight in an atron or slasher or whatever will be the tackler of that day. Time will come he'll get his skills up and look into other fields his empire has to offer - mainline fleet fighter, logistics? Capital pilot? Logistical backbone of the alliance, managing deployments? Recon? There's more to wars than just a big blob, and each of them play a role in victory.

CCP doesn't need to interfere and make the fight more fair or even think about the words "consensual pvp". They just need to take a look at reasons and means to fight. The more reasons to wage war the better. The more ways to do it the more fields an aspiring pilot can look into.

Recognition is another thing - it'd be nice for the world to hear about TEST and the fight in Fountain. Most of it might've been unwise from an economic standpoint, but it sure as balls was awesome.

Considering amount of WiS cosmetics in collector's edition (cyber arm, new monocle, 8 tattoos) including two completely new types of items - I suspect CCP is making advances into WiS. And they still have time to make 2 expansions before *the other* game will be released + now CCP can borrow ideas from hangar in *the other* game (instead of trying risky experiments).

Well, whether or not you get seen committing a crime should be already being developed in WoD. Whether or not you get 'seen' doing certain things is a very important element in the World of Darkness franchise so we can almost guarantee that will get some decent amount of development time (that is if CCP don't ruin an amazing franchise).

As for CCP's resources being limited. I agree heartily. Which is why I object so much to CCP developing 5 games when only one of them is pulling in an income. It's lunacy to the point of stupidity. If they waited until some of them were pulling in an income before adding more projects we could be seeing significantly more content from Eve.

After one year? You mean what's left after all the talk they did over multiple years?
Let's see, fanfest video about WiS from 2008, and then what they got now is this prototype with a bunch of placeholders, from visit to Russia.

Not much to look at, but you should appreciate the audience laughs and giggles.

The Incarna/today stretch that changed CCP's heading is 2 years alone. The talk about POS code revamp is even younger than that.

Those "5 new" classes had assets half-baked for them. The only thing they really actually had done is retextures of base models (bah, mostly recolours) and were released in a state that begs for a huge WTF. A good look at bonuses of Black Ops BS's could shed some light: Panther, battleship, gets a velocity bonus. No, not only cloaked velocity bonus: an actual bonus to velocity.

As for a graphics engine rewrite - it's likely that it was merely released then, in development for some time before, along with assets.

Long overdue. But not terribly interesting.