EVE General Discussion

Let Somer sponsor whatever they want - doesn't mean that CCP should have a hand in hand relationship with them.

It's not about what Somer does, it's about whether or not CCP as the impartial entity that manages the game world should be basically in business with Somer.

If Somer is paying X, Y and Z, and we think X Y and Z are great, then reward X, Y and Z directly. Paying Somer back makes no sense. And that's not even getting into the ludicrous concept of Somer sponsorships being something other than advertising.

In other news, we still don't know why CCP loves Somer so much. We did at least get to find out eventually why they loved BoB. Looking forward to future leaks, because the explanations given so far do not make sense.

how are hours you choose to work, any of CCP's problem?

I don't think any of us have a problem with you rewarding contributions to the community, but these rewards should be limited. I thought Chribba's ideas on this were more the types of rewards that would be appropriate for these types of gestures (or out of game rewards, or course).

But I don't like that you are acting like PLEX would be ok... that makes me think you still don't get it, CCP. Rewards of this type should be about recognition, NOT compensation. Replacing the gold magnate reward with a new unique ship only solved the threatened encroachment on EVE's history. It did nothing to prevent effective favoritism of a seemingly random gift. It scares me that you guys are just throwing around game wealth so whimsically.

I was talking about the Markee Dragon spotlight that came out of nowhere. In hindsight it was a setup for this blatent Somer Blink favouratism. Accuse me of tin foil hattery if you will, but I and a lot of other people have a feeling there is more to this than meets the eye.

I am very sorry to hear that you will keep exploring these 'relationships'. Knowing that CCP is heading in this direction has already caused me to log in less the past few weeks.

Honestly, in my opinion, i have no problem with you guys giving away ingame items as long as they give no ADVANTAGE over other items and or ships, i mean if someone wants to pay 15 billion isk for a reskinned scorpion that is worse than a normal scorpion then that is HIS CHOICE.

So CCP directly, secretly, and personally spawn ships that are known to be worth around 20bn isk each for a bunch of their favourite people and then after the fuss says "well no one else is going to get the same handouts because we're putting that little policy on hold"

Unsubbing because this is even worse - and sadly, it was predicted. Somer got their massive cash influx, and no one else is going to get the same. Thanks CCP. Great.

I also fail to see any kind of response to the fact that Somer ban people at their own discretion, which excluded paying subscribers who have done nothing wrong (by any of CCPs own rules or standards) from partaking in the contest.

Neither have I seen any kind of response to the fact that Navigator made claims about them being 100% legitimate and honouring everything perfectly. Do CCP have access to somers code and services, have CCP performed a thorough investigation and audit into the services and every single transaction? If not then Navigator needs to publicly apologise and correct his statements.

Yes betting sites, drinks companies, clothing companies and many other types sponsor teams, but the organisers of these events not also go and hand them money back, also why do you think they sponsor these teams and events ? To get more revenue in by advertising.

What Somer brings to the eve universe is dubious as to what I can see they actually encourage people to not play eve but gamble on a website only needing to log in to transfer isk over, the website does nothing else apart from give links where people can buy a plex so they can transfer more isk over.

Dotlan, eve-mon, e-fit and a huge amount of other sites actually benefit players.

Is it a case that CCP wanted to say thanks to Somer for getting people to buy plex's and make them RL money, then again what a strange gift, you make me RL money and i will hand you something which costs me literally nothing to give you, no effort on my part or anything indeed special about it as others have them, least making a medal and handing them to whoever was deemed to of deserved it would be special to them, but instead you give something which will add billions out of thin air and effect others ingame as well.
If you really thought the players would like Somer to get all this for what they do for content then why did you tell them to keep it quiet ?
Don't take this as a knock on Somer, they work hard and run a great buisness, but so do a whole host of other ingame entities but don't get mixed up with giving sponsorship and creating content, one is advertising and the other is organising a event, the Syndicate racing league or whatever it's called adds content, whoever sponsor's it doesn't.

Is very simple, CCP should not favour one ingame group over another, it is unfair to anyone else who has really added content, also though I am not a supporter of them but one word to the CSM about it would of made the concerns known and adverted all of this why weren't they consulted ? The CSM came about so you had a group of plyers you could get the opinion of.
Items given free by CCP to say thanks should be personal to those people and non-transferable items not items which effect other players ingame by gifting people multiple billions in assets.

Mra Rednu, Proud holder of a Kourmonen medal given for adding content in FW which is non transferable and worth jack-**** ( which is how it should be :P )

I'd like to register my corporation as an entity that adds valuable content and provides an entertaining experience for the general Incursion community. I'll take free accounts for me and my corporation, a Revenant BPO, an Etana BPO, or a Basilisk BPO, whichever is more convenient for you.

/troll