EVE General Discussion

Way, way, way off-topic...

If CCP is going to attend the New York Comic Con, then I really hope they consider plans to attend its sister convention (spin-off convention) here in Chicago - C2E2 (Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo).

Back to your regularly scheduled "Avatars will ruin or save a dying Eve!" rants.

Incorrect. The deluge of menus and spreadsheets and various hidden option panels are beyond all levels of sanity in EVE. However, most of the things you could do in station would be much easier to interpret in a "walking around Orgrimmar" concept that gamers are pretty much used to from every other game in existence.

So WiS would provide an easy way to explore the things you can do from the station Neocom. As players needed to do something regularly, they would figure out "Oh, I can just do this from this button here."

Right, this guy and the rest of the "anti-WiS" or "FiS" or nay-sayer mouth-foamer persons seem to think the avatar gameplay supporters somehow would like to see the game polishing and ship rebalancing efforts halted just like the rest of the game development. Somehow they have to create this idea of confrontation to have something to quarell about, seem even afraid to accept that what we are suggesting to CCP is not that they stop this work on the game to continue work on avatar gameplay, but rather to have the teams that were disbanded and assigned to side projects go back to work on EVE.



Lol give us more money and dream with us here guyz with Future Visionz™ while we spend it on another games.

No thanks. I'd rather put money in the development of games I actually play.

Tired of CCPeen Reinvented Wheel™ failed promises. Looks so good doesn't it?

Now my question to CCP CEO, Vice Presidents, Executive Producers and other suit wearing individuals:
- Where's the fruit of all this? Was it really worth all the developer burnouts and layoffs, among other resource expense?
Are people happy and buying these marvellous technological advancements you have achieved in graphic technology? Or are they putting money in other developer's games using reliable tools available on the market to make unified game universes?
Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of developing your own company created technology is a great achievement and something to be proud of. What I can't understand is the development decisions made by thyselves regarding the side games' (Dust514/Valkyrie) graphic engines. I mean, you are so proud of this Reinvented Wheel™ and refuse to work with other 3rd party created software in EVE, and then develop games that are supposed to be connected to it using Unreal 3 and Unity?????? It doesn't take an expert in graphic engine development to grasp that you should be using the same software on all the games you want to connect, be it Carbon, Unreal or Unity. What you don't wanna do is develop each in its own engine and alienate the playerbases!!!

Lol not the PC vs PS3 choice discussion again. Imma take a pass on that one.

If what you say actually happens someday (Dust and Valkyrie on Carbon) then maybe theres hope for EVE. But I'lll believe it when I see it.

Can't remember the details, but someone shared a techy explanation on why PS3 graphics code can't be carried over to PS4 and so porting DUST to PS4 would mean re-writing everything again; it had to do with PS3 using specialyzed graphic processors and PS4 using a completely different graphical core not compatible with PS3's 7 years old hardware.

Valkyrie started production in Unity, which is an incredible development engine. The smart thing to do would be to stick with Unity. Dust runs on the Unreal Engine (which is what WiS was initially planned to run on). Carbon was a massive waste of CCP's time.



I actually remember something quite to the contrary, that the vast majority of Dust wasn't specifically coded for the PS3 anyway. Perhaps they (stupidly) just converted a lot of code then...



Love your enthusiasm, but since this thread was created a year ago we have seen nothing. This thread has only kept going because people want to show that they still want Avatar content, but it doesn't look like CCP are paying any attention.

See you in SC, or maybe even in Elite: Dangerous, if they will try to make the expansion based on this style of gameplay.

That's the idea, or better that WAS the idea... but, right now, I doubt we ever will see that, at least not in one game... maybe when the project leadership changes yet again.

SC will have avatar gameplay from the start... including WiS, ships and on planets... Elite Dangerous will have it in it's first expansion, a year after release... so, come 2015, there should be two solid space games WITH avatar gameplay.

Yea, Goons... fun bunch... I mean, you gotta love people that only play games to ultimately break them, and to show the whole world how clever they are in doing so.

...but, it kinda explaines why they are against any new mechanics introduced to "their" game: More gameplay options means more ways for other players to avoid them.

The Goons original mission statement (if you like) was to literally destroy Eve Online. So, I understand people hatred of them. But ultimately the goons are not like that anymore. They're just an alliance like any other. A particularly powerful alliance, but none the less.

I think generalizing these sentiments to it's members is silly these days. Most goons probably have no idea that the original intention of their alliance was to destroy the game they love. Many goons don't share the greifers' attitude either. I know a fair few Goons personally who are strong advocates of WiS.

Goons are people too (maybe not Rhes), you know?