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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#2221 - 2013-09-29 19:48:02 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
I don't think Ish, J3ss, Shalua, or anyone else for that matter, would really take vanity features over meaningful gameplay.


Of course they would. That's exactly what they are asking for in this thread.

They are crying over robes ffs.


They also want a tank with fishes.

The Tears Must Flow
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2222 - 2013-09-29 20:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Avatar gameplay is not only about emotes and gudfait in Jita cantina, it's a whole new playstyle, a very dangerous one. Just imagine the havoc a group of marines could do by boarding an enemy ship during a huge fleet battle. Or infiltraring an enemy POS or station. But ofc this is vay too much for CCP, not even a whole decade would be enough to pull this out. Rebalancing dots in space over and over is much more convenient.

True... sure, it would have been much easier to implement stuff like that, if EVE would have had been made with avatar game play of that magnitude in mind, in the first place... still, it wouldn't be impossible to implement, if CCP would be willing to really try it... alas, they aren't, and most likely never will be, ever again.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2223 - 2013-09-29 20:24:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Vaju Enki wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
I don't think Ish, J3ss, Shalua, or anyone else for that matter, would really take vanity features over meaningful gameplay.


Of course they would. That's exactly what they are asking for in this thread.

They are crying over robes ffs.


They also want a tank with fishes.

Which would destroy your game right?

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2224 - 2013-09-29 20:37:58 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
I don't think Ish, J3ss, Shalua, or anyone else for that matter, would really take vanity features over meaningful gameplay.


Of course they would. That's exactly what they are asking for in this thread.

They are crying over robes ffs.


if you hate WiS so much why do you even have an avatar? Should have left the silhouette space holder .. yet you went to the trouble of making your face and moustache and put clothes on and finding the background you liked . Ah hypocrisy, such an ugly beast.
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2225 - 2013-09-29 20:40:48 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
I don't think Ish, J3ss, Shalua, or anyone else for that matter, would really take vanity features over meaningful gameplay.


Of course they would. That's exactly what they are asking for in this thread.

They are crying over robes ffs.


They also want a tank with fishes.



I wonder who will have the last laugh when we get our tank with fishes in another game that seems to be what WiS should have been like here. Because if you believe that it's all about the "tank with fishes, wizard robes and toilets" then you are sorely mistaken.
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2226 - 2013-09-29 20:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Whitch would destroy your game right?

Don't feed the troll...

...although, living on a diet of retalin and carebear tears can't be really healthy...

I changed my mind, FEED the troll! Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2227 - 2013-09-29 20:59:43 UTC
..Hey, this Eve game looks pretty cool. Spaceships, sweet! Thousand of solar systems to explore and conquer! Space combat! Oh man, Wormholes! Now, if they just added planets we can walk on and Evac Suits and /dance emotes and fashion, this would be a pretty awesome game!

Cheese and Rice.

CCP: /History Channel Guy - Spaceships!

Eve the UNIVERSE is more then just spaceships. Its a long history and very content rich. I've read he booms and the chronicles. Its awesome, and I love it.

BUT!

Eve the VIDEO GAME is about spaceships. All the other stuff is just not practical. Sorry.

I have to laugh. CCP being CCP. Lets do WiS! Lets make a FPS! Lets make PANTS for the players avatars! Holy cow lets make EVACSUITS!! And looting! Gamers love looting!

Good thing Eve players are intelligent enough to knock CCP back on track whenever they forget that Eve is Spaceships.

♠ Sinclair Consulting ♠
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#2228 - 2013-09-29 21:03:02 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
..Hey, this Eve game looks pretty cool. Spaceships, sweet! Thousand of solar systems to explore and conquer! Space combat! Oh man, Wormholes! Now, if they just added planets we can walk on and Evac Suits and /dance emotes and fashion, this would be a pretty awesome game!

Cheese and Rice.

CCP: /History Channel Guy - Spaceships!

Eve the UNIVERSE is more then just spaceships. Its a long history and very content rich. I've read he booms and the chronicles. Its awesome, and I love it.

BUT!

Eve the VIDEO GAME is about spaceships. All the other stuff is just not practical. Sorry.

I have to laugh. CCP being CCP. Lets do WiS! Lets make a FPS! Lets make PANTS for the players avatars! Holy cow lets make EVACSUITS!! And looting! Gamers love looting!

Good thing Eve players are intelligent enough to knock CCP back on track whenever they forget that Eve is Spaceships.


I don't even...

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2229 - 2013-09-29 21:27:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhes
J3ssica Alba wrote:
if you hate WiS so much why do you even have an avatar? Should have left the silhouette space holder .. yet you went to the trouble of making your face and moustache and put clothes on and finding the background you liked . Ah hypocrisy, such an ugly beast.


When Incarna was released I gave it a shot. I logged in, created my new avatar and then logged in to my captain's quarters. I walked (very, very slowly) around my couch and then logged out. I realized that Eve had been neglected for two years for a really in-depth character creator and a room with a couch and I canceled all my subs. Once CCP apologized for almost destroying the game and promised to refocus on spaceship content I resubbed.

Unlike some people in this thread I spoke with my wallet. The only hypocrisy I see are people who say they can't enjoy this game without bathrobes and dance emotes but continue to pay (for multiple subs even!).

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2230 - 2013-09-29 21:32:54 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Avatar gameplay is not only about emotes and gudfait in Jita cantina, it's a whole new playstyle, a very dangerous one. Just imagine the havoc a group of marines could do by boarding an enemy ship during a huge fleet battle. Or infiltraring an enemy POS or station. But ofc this is vay too much for CCP, not even a whole decade would be enough to pull this out. Rebalancing dots in space over and over is much more convenient.


Based on what was released for Incarna, the complete failure of Dust and the lack of progress on WoD do you really believe CCP has the ability to add that type of gameplay to Eve without once again neglecting the core gameplay that the game was founded upon?

Listen, I like CCP a lot as a company and I really enjoy their spaceship mmo. That's why I don't want to see them get misled by a small handful of people who think Eve is something it's not.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#2231 - 2013-09-29 21:46:28 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Good thing Eve players are intelligent enough to knock CCP back on track whenever they forget that Eve is Spaceships.

Pity, said players also knock off some of their own, each time that happens... but yea, necessary sacrifices, right? Blink

No matter... pretty soon EVE will be the only (successful) spaceship game that is JUST about spaceships... hope all you intelligent players will be happy then.

...vision is scary. Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2232 - 2013-09-29 21:53:03 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
No matter... pretty soon EVE will be the only (successful) spaceship game that is JUST about spaceships... hope all you intelligent players will be happy then.

...vision is scary. Blink


We are already happy and we're also excited about CCP's vision for the future of Eve. I feel bad for people who are too narrow-minded to see that vision even if it lacks dance emotes and bathrobes.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#2233 - 2013-09-29 23:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
We use bathrobes and emotes only in Second Lyfe and LoL guyz! EVE is spaceshipz Evil
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2234 - 2013-09-30 00:02:12 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
We use bathrobes and emotes only in Second Lyfe and LoL guyz! EVE is spaceshipz Evil


Now you're getting it.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2235 - 2013-09-30 00:02:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Syds Sinclair
Shalua Rui wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Good thing Eve players are intelligent enough to knock CCP back on track whenever they forget that Eve is Spaceships.

Pity, said players also knock off some of their own, each time that happens... but yea, necessary sacrifices, right? Blink

No matter... pretty soon EVE will be the only (successful) spaceship game that is JUST about spaceships... hope all you intelligent players will be happy then.

...vision is scary. Blink




..I'm assuming that you think Star Citizen is going to be the Eve Killer. How original.

I played WoW off and on over the years (flame on!) and every so often, angry WoW players would hype whatever new MMO that was on the horizon as "The WoW Killer.". Anyone remember any of those games? They killed WoW, right?

Let's revisit some:

Fury
CAoR
Rift
GW2
WHO (Warhammer online. WoW bittervets dubbed it WoW. Waiting On Warhammer. It was a long wait.
Aion
SW:TOR

And I'm sure I'm missing a few. Which one killed WoW? None, you say? That's right, and there is a reason for that.

WoW was established, with many patches of content. Each and every MMO had to walk straight up to the big beefy king and try to dethrone him. But they lacked the years of content, and it was not economically feasible to postpone the game(s) until they had enough content to rival the king.

How bout Eve? Oh yeah, 10 years of content. 10 yeas as the only spaceship on the block. 10 years of what works and what doesn't. 10 years of history that has gotten the mainstream news coverage! Hell, even Glen Beck accused the Goons of being a CIA team! Glen Beck. Eve. Goons. National prime time TV!

But back to WoW. What's that you say? WoW IS dying? Something MUST have killed WoW,so Eve too, can be slain?

Well, gentle carebears, like usual, you are half right.

WoW IS dying. It was defiantly slain. But it wasn't a murder. It was suicide. WoW killed itself by introducing content that drastically conflicted with the established player base. They didn't listen to the criticism from their community, they would not be talked down off the ledge.

Pandas = Walking in station.

To CCP. You have made a great game that is loved by many. You have grown your company from a small Icelandic startup to a international and well respected powerhouse. You have offices and staff members in many different countries. You have a lot of very nice assets.

Never forget your most valuable asset. The passionate capsuleers who are your voice of reason. Well tell ya when your bein stupid.

*Edit. iPads and Forums don't play nice.

♠ Sinclair Consulting ♠
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#2236 - 2013-09-30 00:29:01 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Yes CCP, we'll tell you when your being stupid! Evil And btw if you guys in Iceland want to play OUR game too you can subscribe by giving us some special spaceships and isk loads ingame.

Dont make us shoot ze statue!!! Evil
Lateris
#2237 - 2013-09-30 02:30:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lateris
MY only feedback for an Eve MMO-RPG with "avatars" is to make a separate game that ties into Eve Online. A full fledged MMO_RPG for Eve Avatars only separate from this client\game. Same system, same engine, but heavily scripted for avatars and the lifespan of an avatar. A sandbox made for the societies of Eve Online among the politicians, the working class, the scientist, and even other ends of New Edens eclectic societies.

0/
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2238 - 2013-09-30 02:50:36 UTC
Lateris wrote:
MY only feedback for an Eve MMO-RPG with "avatars" is to make a separate game that ties into Eve Online. A full fedged MMO_RPG for Eve Avatars only separate from this client\game. Same system, same engine, but heavily scripted for avatars and the lifespan of a avatar. A sandbox made for the societies of Eve Online amongdt the politicians, the working class, the scientist, and even other ends of New Edens ecceltic sociies.


Great idea!

Lets make a separate VR spaceship game with hands on flight controls, then lets
make a separate avatar game for social interaction and RP, then lets make a separate
game with avatar FPS play..... and they can all tie in to the game that has a deacades
old graphical view of spaceships and we can call it a "universe". Roll

Or we can go play a fresh new take on "internet spaceships" that combines all that
in one login, on one platform.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2239 - 2013-09-30 03:47:12 UTC
Soulpirate wrote:
Or we can go play a fresh new take on "internet spaceships" that combines all that
in one login, on one platform.


I think this is a fantastic idea for anybody who can't play an internet spaceship game without dress-up Barbie attached.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#2240 - 2013-09-30 03:57:31 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Rhes wrote:
I think this is a fantastic idea for anybody who can't play an internet spaceship game without dress-up Barbie attached.


Its a fantastic idea for people that want a real space simulator sci-fi mmorpg and not tiny squares and spreadsheets.