EVE General Discussion

Flip the record brah, that side is gettin too scratched...

Well, the point with discussing resources i tightly related to CCP's alternate endeavours. CCP is sitting on a stable pool of money inflowing each year in the line of 90-100 million USD. That money is shared by several departments/offcies, of which there are four woking on games:

- Reykjavik (estimated population: 300-350), the core, jewel of the crown, were every mediocre icelandic software developer who can hold a mouse is joyfully employed along with some of the most talented foreign developers in industry and the few icelanders who can actually develop software (with a population of 240,000 and way better salaries everywhere else, you bet they're barely enough to keep CCP going on).

- Shanghai (est. pop.: 60-80), home of the DUST development team. Through cheap development costs, standard tools and with assistance from the talented guys in Reykjavik, they've managed to produce a daring mediocre shooter which is unlikely that it can pay its own hamsters and is, by all means, in desperate need of even more development. The most daring aspect of DUST, connexion to EVE, has proven to be boring as hell on both ends and there's null demand in EVE to move it beyond its half-assed state.

- Atlanta (est. pop.: 100-120), home to the WoD development team. Here lies most of the hired talent in CCP an is continuously growing as the project they work on is beefed up. Development tasks are slow but steady and those fortunate guys are working in which is, by a stretch, the most innovative and promising project in the house, a true contender to become "EVE 2".

- Newcastle (est. pop.: 30), home to the Valkyrie team. Used to be a ancillary station, and now has been beefed up (if 15 guys can be called "beefing") to develop a little roadside project which could be a big bang but relies on such a small niche that only professional optimists would throw money at it without serious reflexion on its threats/opportunities. Because, Oculus Rift couldn't possibly dud, right?

As you see, there's a lot of work being done, and EVE gets most of it... but if you look at the estimated population in each office, you may notice a funny relation between what EVE got in the past and what it gets now, and what it does not get any longer.

Really? Damn... that was my favorite part!

Yea well... I don't start arguing about that as Eve subs have actually been going slowly up for 10 years already. However I would hardly call ~35k "new" subs / year a "great" success specially when many of them come from alt accounts. CCP is doing ok with Eve but surely there is plenty of room to improve.

I really would turn the discussion towards questions like: "Do you think that CCP has assigned development hours and _actual finished content_ to Eve in steady relation with the subscriber graphs they provide?", "Does player really even know what (game) he is funding when he buys the plex or pays the sub fee?", "Would it be justified to demand more investments back to the Eve than it is getting at the moment?"

...in the end most of the "rage" you're referring to was about 3 things:

1) CCP removed ship spinning hangar against peoples will and replaced it with CQ.
2) CCP introduced aurum and micro transactions.
3) WiS was about 1 million miles from what people expected to get.

My personal opinion is that number 1 went wrong mainly because they forcefully replaced the hangar with something what loads slower and eats much more computer resources ignoring the huge group of players who run multible game clients simultaneously. It's not really about removing the ship spinning but forcefully replacing it with worse alternative with slower undocking/docking cycle and with greater hardware requirements. The hate was there since the thing got released to SiSi and facts were on the table. CCP ignored everything and bulldozed their "excellent" plan to tranq probably mainly because they wanted to make sure that everyone will see the new aurum store and items every time they dock.

When you add aurum and micro transactions to the mess described above you will probably come to same conclusion that people had all the right to become angry. CCP had just nerfed the game from people who actually undock from the station and play with spaceships. At same time they expect them to buy clothes for their new barbies with aurum while they keep paying their monthly subs for themselves and all their alts. Obviously we can't forget the WoT and ghost of similar gold ammo suddenly ending to aurum store after someone forgets some of the promises they had maybe or maybe not made.

Now if we look even further back I'm sure that we all can agree with the fact that with all the resources WiS has taken so far it should have been in game few years ago already. However CCP has ruined it every time by having their own agenda hidden behind the curtain. In fact the vision was in order only when 1st prototype was introduced 1st time many many years ago. We all know that the plan was then later /dev/nulled and replaced with awesome vampires and later with the micro transactions with no actual game play what so ever.

It has never really been about WiS. It has always been about CCP's really crappy decisions behind closed curtains, false information, greedy agenda and empty promises. There has been countless wasted dev hours only because they have failed in their hidden plans. It has been unfortunate road but the players or their wishes are not the ones we can blame here. WiS is just one seemingly good feature what CCP prototyped to players in fanfest 2008 and failed to delivered as "introduced".

This brings us to #3 in the list. If you go to captains quarters now you see what Incarna expansion brought. It is not players fault and Eves benefit that the thing in tranq today is not what CCP prototyped.

For further studying: Walking in Stations with Torfi Olafsson

Hey Ish, hey people, look what just surfaced on the SC site: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13288-Multiple-Package-Clarification I guess we have the lacking avatar customization out of the way, no?

I'll buy a scond basic ship too next month... for now I'm happy with the Freelancer package.

If this game is a mix of Deadspace, Shattered Horizon, SWTOR, HALO, and Splinter Cell: Blacklist we could have something good on our hands.

I'll keep repeating the truth until somebody proves it's not.

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!