EVE General Discussion

After what I've given to CCP over the last years, I have not qualms what so ever over supporting SC or E.D.

I think it's pretty clear now that CCP have no intention of ever implementing meaningful avatar content (sorry Rhes, I know you were looking forward to having sex in your fur suit, perhaps you should give second life a go).

The only reason they won't come out and say it is because they don't want to alienate players who want it because they want your subscription dollars.

CCP seem to barely be able to pull off a decent space based expansion lately.

Seems you don't *get* Sci Fi, Captain Picard had a fish tank, the Enterprise had several of them actually.

Well, that's because EVE is no longer really about sci-fie... sure, it's about spaceships... but other then that, it's a playground for juvinile delinquents on a power trip, screwing each other over... no wonder, no excitement... just meaningless, tedious competition...

Take a look at the SC forums... there you see real sci-fie enthusiasts.

It's nice to know you still care.

Ya, it's pretty ******* awesome.

I've tried to steer clear of the whole SC vs Eve, but man, the more I hear about SC, the more depressed I get when I look at Eve. I'm not going to pretend like making a game is easy in way, shape, or form, but at a certain point, I do have to kind of wonder what's going on at CCP?

Don't get me wrong, I like Eve, but I'm slowly leaning towards the "expansion = glorified patch" crowd as time goes on. I'm not expecting a huge mind-blowing expansion every time, but I'd be lying if I said I don't find these expansions lacking in one way or another. At this rate, I think I'm also skeptical if we'll ever see WiS at all. On top of that, World of Darkness is practically vaporware at this point and DUST514, while I do very much enjoy some aspects of it, is still riddled with problems. It doesn't really all add up if you ask me.

Again, I can not stress it enough: I like Eve and I like CCP or else I wouldn't even be here, but I'm just disappointed (and a little confused) is all it is. I suppose all I can really do is sit here, wait, and hope for the best, but man, they sure don't make it easy to stay optimistic.

Oh my gods, SC has fish and a firing range everyone will get bored with in a month. Pack up guys, I can already hear CCP devs walking towards the Big Red Button...

...Alright, we should totally get WiS. Customizable WiS with something fun for you to look at when you log in, perhaps acting as a well-designed and extremely cool interface reflecting your approach to the game. I mean come on, capsuleers are immortal demigods responsible for the deaths of billions. Captains like Kirk or Picard had to answer for their mistakes, they just make others die instead, waking up in a fresh clone in a distant system. The only thing hurt is their wallet and pride.

Their conflicts claim worlds and space stations, not to mention lives of the crews of destroyed ships. They're something that can warp in, torch your entire colony, slaughter everyone with nukes because that structure at the end was rumoured to have a rare battleship BPC or expensive modules. Hell, anually they blow up each other as a sport event.

So let's have a proper CQ, and extend it to the possibility of changing the hangar. With upgrades, because we pay in ISK and give no fucks. The catch? None of this features should obstruct gameplay - they should look cool, make scifi nerds squeal but not get in the way.

- Peasant package. They may not be players but they're whippable and serve as a good reminder of how many miserable, mortal lives can be extinguished with your press of a button. Come in, obviously, Minmatar variety and subdued Amarr if you feel like your apartment lacks that special feel of irony.

- Themed CQ. Ever played Fallout 3? I mean, sides from a rather terribad storyline and improperly black/white view on the universe (mods fix that, by the way) it offered a way to customize your living space. How about simple variants of Quarters/Hangar that just look cool. No function, they just make spinning your ship cooler. From faction themes (Because no place is home without a healthy dose of rust.) to generic themes tied to, once more, the way you see the game.

Spreadsheets, holographic graphs of your wallet and green numbers to make it more business-y? Check. Boxes of bullets, a gun just in case a bottle of booze and a fat stack of not exactly legit cash on the table for our more criminal-minded types? Why not.

- Exotic Dancers. Need I say more? You can afford a spaceship. You probably can also afford a hooker. In every station you dock at, being subscribed to a service that auto-books one when you request docking permission.

Hell, more - make it possible for holders to customize the station. Banners with the alliance logo. Colours. Light schemes. Ambient sound (EVE has sound?). You dock and you know who runs this place.

Of course, we'd still be juvenile delinquents, driving around at several kilometers per second throwing nuclear warheads and rounds the size of a car at each other. We'd still scam, betray and steal. Systems would still change hands in a violent way - we'd just be a tad more stylish while at it.

I mean, that's the main selling point of EVE - not a flashy hangar bay you can walk around in. The fact that it's a violent sandbox in which there's no bad guys - everyone is equally evil and your choice is based on whoever is most aligned to your cause and is least likely to shoot you in the back the second you turn around.

So if you already have a game that you enjoy why are you still trying to ruin Eve?

There is too much bitterness in this thread.

It is understandable. Sure, CCP didn't keep the promises about WiS(not only that either), and expansions seem to look weak (patches rather,) especially in comparison to SC hype and actual delivery on that "front."

But I think it's about time there's some healthy competition for Eve. Developers here got spoiled imo, they feel too cosy in this "niche."
I do hope SC succeeds, so Eve gets shaken somewhat.

Eve certainly is not dying. Stagnating? Yep, it is about time for **** to get stirred up.