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What sort of action?

I would've thought an almost 12 month old thread largely in support of meaningful avatar gameplay would be enough.

It isn't unnoticed. I've personally pointed it out to CCP employees. They're just ignoring it.



Well you haven't had your eyes open then. An example;



You've used this a lot as an argument, over and over and over. And I have said the same thing to you and others, over and over and over. CCP never tried WiS. The one and a half year period of really low expansion content that came before Incarna (which released a single room, not WiS) was spent developing the Carbon engine. You know the one right? The one that powers TiDi, the V3 textures, the new nebula, turrets, moving ship parts, and probably the new FW, Bounty System, and new exploration.

CCP never dedicated even one expansion cycle to WiS. The Carbon engine was integrated with Eve in the Incarna expansion. The Incarna expansion was basically CCP trying to make an expansion out of integrating Carbon. The CQ probably took up a tiny fraction of their development time on the Incarna expansion. Testament to this, the following expansion (Crucible) released the other three CQs, more clothes and optimizations, as well as TiDi, the biggest contribution to ship rebalancing, V3 textures, new ships and all the other things you rant about being more important than any expansion since.

Now, I know what will happen now. You'll ignore these facts (I rarely use that word), and carry on trolling, or focus on something irrelevant in the hopes that you can move away from the argument. And at the end of it you'll act all victorious, despite the fact that it's clear to everyone else in this thread that you don't know what your talking about.

Below, if you using the same argument again in different words, basically referring back to the Incarna expansion like that's the only argument you have.



And this below, is me shooting you down (again) with the same argument that I have had to repeat over and over. (In a lot less detail than I have previously admittedly)

"That's not true. There was an almost identical drop in subs following Tyrannis*. Also, I would like to say, we never got Walking in Stations. We got 1 crap room. We also got ridiculously over-priced micro transactions, a massive amount of controversy and almost no other content from that expansion because they spent the entire time developing Carbon (which, by the way, we have been reaping the benefit of ever since)."

You then, predictably ignored it and moved onto something completely different. It's just not worth arguing with you. You obviously feel like your winning because you have questions that we have to answer. You don't care what the answer is. So why should we care to answer you?

Emailed Seagull, Deddawn, and Hilmar. Got a reply from Seagull a while ago.



No response from Hilmar. Reddawn's response was significantly better, but that was some time ago now.

CCP should come forth and say what their plans are for avatars. Stop this endless tease.

So, essentially, the door will not open never and our avatars/characters will never be of any use in this game.

Way to go, CCP. Way to go.

Well. It also seems crazy to put avatar tech into a game and then not use it.

Talk about wasted effort.

...and there is that, of course. If the plan really is to never actually use it, why not remove it right now? To keep the people playing that actually want more avatar gameplay, and only stick with EVE because they think it will come?


Exactly... I dunno how old this e-mail is, but I feel the same way after reading that...

Holy ****. Those are some bad employee reviews.

Now there is so little tease, that somewhat abysmal (for avatar gameplay lovers) Hilmar answer "maybe next year" when talking about the door and avatar gameplay, was expected as a joke, and invited as such in general.

Rhes and the others don't need to be be afraid.

Just got this from CCP Seagul on twitter.

"This is not the focus for EVE online the game, but CCP still holds the vision. Both me and Hilmar expressed this at fanfest."

Souns like a "no, but we are too afraid to be honest about it".