EVE General Discussion

Or inside your pod sitting cozy within a ship.

It has been stated that some people can not relate to a ship since it is not an avatar. So I started thinking with avatar gaming, why not start off with a hull of an avatar and train various skills to add equipment (modules) to this hull? While the attributes we have are the core base, these can be combined to train avatar attributes - similar to the old Learning skills - which will open up the player to be allowed to use certain items.

Example: Using your Perception and Willpower attributes, you train the skill "Strength" which conditions your physical body. Strength 1 allows you to wear studded leather, Strength 3 allows you to wear steel plated overcoat, and Strength 5 allows you to wear the rare full military body armor.

Example: Using your Charisma and Intelligence attributes, you train the skill "Charisma" which opens up the ability to use your charms and wits to sway people. Charisma 1 allows you to wear simple Caldari jewelry, Charisma 3 allows you to wear higher ended Gallente clothing, and Charisma 5 allows you to wear articles that makes the Empress jealous.

Encounter example: There is a crusty old veteran blocking your passage to potential riches. If you went the combat route, then your body armor and weaponry (trained with other skills), along with other skills trained (dodging, hand-held rapid firing, hand-held sharpshooting, etc.) might eliminate the guard. Or if you went the charm route, using your fine silk clothing, hand gestures, and a rarer bottle of wine might have the guard pass out to allow you passage.

Similar to modules, the meta 0 modules for your avatar could be created using a small sample of various planetary items combined with blue prints while the rarest stuff requires you to risk yourself to obtain. The Nex store items could be considered but mere trinkets.

Overall, the idea is to parallel the flying in space aspect with station gaming: your avatar being similar to a ship, development of your avatar parallel to expanding the abilities of your ship, and training interlinked to allow you to use better means of survival.

Obviously this is but a very quick angle that would need to be fleshed out. Those players that just want to interact, showing off their trinkets will have that option. But risking yourself wearing the highest military grade body armor while carrying a BFG9000 in hopes of getting the biggest score will require extensive skill training... and a bit of luck.

Thanks for reading.

This Merry-Go-Round topic still active?

First it's on, then it's off, then on again, then off. It's a never ending cycle that just keeps going ...... and going ...... and going ...... Sorta like the Energizer Bunny.

And wasn't Team Avatar disbanded and it's members placed into other CCP Teams?

Now don't get me wrong, the idea of having Avatar game play content is all fine and dandy. The problem is having that content appeal to everyone which isn't gonna happen any time soon. Mainly because everyone has a different interpretation of what that content should entail.



DMC

Any change or decision you make will **** off a portion of the player-base, including the decision to change nothing.

this may have been said here already, my apologies if so...but...ccp should make the game they want. and there will be those of us that play it. and those of us that don't. i, for one, am pretty happy with what they do. avatar gameplay would be great. but it's more of an icing on the cake thing. i won't stop playing if there is no avatar content. i might play more if there were...but my sub doesn't rest on the presence of that sort gameplay.

Eve is 10 years old. It hit 500k subscriptions, which is quite low, considering amount of alt accounts (many of which are bots). I think Eve deserves better. CCP devs deserve better. A couple of them left CCP recently, and while everyone keeps saying it is normal, I'd like to disagree. Eve is not dying, it is stagnating.

The bug fixes, rebalancing get to be called expansions.
WiS on the other hand could bring lots of many players, while not necessarily modifying or killing core gameplay.
Plus I do think they wanted to deliver the content, otherwise trailers like this would not exist. Unless it's just misleading fluff.

many =/= most .

Actually Eve is growing.

That's a chart of every sub-1 million subs MMO. This is the chart for subs over 1 million. Note that Lineage 1 no longer exists.

Of all of those MMOs Eve Online is the only one that's both Subscription Based and still growing with several of the Free to Play ones even losing active accounts. In-fact the only subscription based game with more active accounts than Eve Online is World of Warcraft and its lost over 1/3rd of its active subs since its peak in 2010 while Eve's population has almost doubled.

As for the recent departures, that happens. People don't tend to want to work on the same game for the rest of their life. CCP has gained and lost people in the past too as has every other game company.

Also most accounts in Eve are not bots, that claim is silly. Yes Eve has a lot of alt accounts but that's actually made it more successful, not less so.

Data from MMOData.com which currently has an article on Eve on its main page.

I feel like I should say something to help keep the thread going, and support the idea.

But there is nothing left to say. CCP are just going to continue to ignore what people want just like they did pre-incarna. I almost feel that something more radical should happen. Maybe we should publically hang around outside of the new player safe zones and suicide gank their new players in their shiny new cormorants. I imagine doing that for any length of time would hurt sub numbers pretty bad.

You know looking at those charts, it makes me wonder if themepark games are basically treated as "get rich quick schemes" where investors buy in at the start and start selling their shares just before the predictable crash in subscriptions a couple months after launch.

It's not so much theme park's only, but MMO's in general... it's no coincidence that most tripple A MMO's these days start of subscription based, then crash and make a "second coming" as f2p titles... it has become a business practice. The first "phase" makes investors happy, the second one makes the "publisher/developer" happy.