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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#1481 - 2013-09-12 03:52:39 UTC
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Flamespar
WarRavens
#1482 - 2013-09-12 05:23:55 UTC
Funny how out of all the tens of thousands of EVE players, Rhes is the only one that is vocally against the implementation of meaningful avatar content.

Looks like new stuff for avatars is a virtual certainty.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#1483 - 2013-09-12 05:33:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Flamespar wrote:
Looks like new stuff for avatars is a virtual certainty.


As I said: I sure hope so... I mean, one thing always stuck me as odd: Why would CCP even leave the CQs in the game, if they never will expand upon? Also: DUST bunnies got their own "MQs", and they got a "common area"... from a design consistency standpoint alone, there should be something similar in EVE, no?

...and Rhes: You sound like broken record. Roll I will ignore you from now on, since you have made it clear that you don't want to add to the discussion in any meaningful way.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Teinyhr
Ourumur
#1484 - 2013-09-12 06:14:26 UTC
Indeed there is such a feature as "hide posts" in this forum, which is nice.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#1485 - 2013-09-12 07:00:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Shalua Rui wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Looks like new stuff for avatars is a virtual certainty.


As I said: I sure hope so... I mean, one thing always stuck me as odd: Why would CCP even leave the CQs in the game, if they never will expand upon? Also: DUST bunnies got their own "MQs", and they got a "common area"... from a design consistency standpoint alone, there should be something similar in EVE, no?

...and Rhes: You sound like broken record. Roll I will ignore you from now on, since you have made it clear that you don't want to add to the discussion in any meaningful way.


Heh, probably removing the CQ is not worth the trouble, so they're just not working on it.

But anyway, avatar customization is a different topic than WiS. The NEx store coud be updated and expanded, and further work on avatars could be done (does someone recall Fanfest 2012's racial blending?) without any gameplay added, just for vanity. Provided how much cost the tattoos, albeit being few and fugly, it's obvious that there is interest to make your character outstand from the crowd.

Of course, allowing avatar customization is a road that would build up pressure to allow displaying the vanity items in game, which in turn leads to add multiplayer avatar content of the "non-meaningful gameplay" type (where "non-meaningful means "we can't f*ck you for it").

The bleeding irony of selling 150 euros non-meaningful content and yet being shitscared of adding "non-meaningful" content to the game is, well, bleeding. What?

"MEANINGFUL" is what your customers mean, not what a little bunch of forum trolls claim. *I* would deem perfectly "meaningful" for me to keep running missions just to build up a wardrobe for my female characters, i.e. pay a subscription to get vanity items. And what could be more meaningful to CCP, than have some sucker pay 15 euros/month to dress up some 3D dolls? Without no balancing issues, no legacy coding issues, no unforeseen backlash... just sweet monies into CCP wallet...

...If they have the galls to tell the whiners to HTFU and beat it as some players in EVE would rather buy a skirt than give a darn of the whole nullsec mechanics.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#1486 - 2013-09-12 07:07:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Of course, allowing avatar customization is a road that would build up pressure to allow displaying the vanity items in game, which in turn leads to add multiplayer avatar content of the "non-meaningful gameplay" type (where "non-meaningful" means "we can't f*ck you for it").


Haha... yea, that's quite right, I reckon.

Imagine CCP announcing, say station gameplay, with the ability to shoot and kill everyone, everywhere with a pistol... the tone of the naysayers would change quite suddenly... or manybe not, since the other people could shoot back just as easily, not all of them would be used to that. Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1487 - 2013-09-12 13:50:38 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Funny how out of all the tens of thousands of EVE players, Rhes is the only one that is vocally against the implementation of meaningful avatar content.

Looks like new stuff for avatars is a virtual certainty.


I speak for the thousands of people who canceled their accounts after Incarna went live. Also, if there was really a great demand for WiS beyond the handful of furries who keep propping up this thread CCP wouldn't have disbanded Team Avatar.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#1488 - 2013-09-12 18:36:37 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Silent Rambo wrote:
Rhes wrote:
at least makes more sense than dance parties and clothing boutiques.


This guy is just a super forum troll. Logic is impervious to the thickness of his skull. Any argument, no matter how well crafted will have him spouting 'Herp derp, barbies and furries" nonsense because he has no real argument. This works great in convincing absolutely no one of any actual cons to walking in stations. All it does is show how much of a **** this guy is, or anyone who genuinely believes that the implementation of WiS would be equivalent to barbies and furries.

EvE is a great game, and it will grow to be even better when everyone starts ignoring people with no imagination or vision. The word "never" should be changes to, 'if we can figure out how to correctly implement".


Here is some logic for you: When CCP added WiS to the game they lost a ton of subscribers. When they apologized and promised to focus on spaceships again they stopped losing subscribers. When they actually did what they promised to do subscriptions have risen every quarter since Incarna.



Wrong Don,t mixup Incarna and WIS

R.S.I2014

Teinyhr
Ourumur
#1489 - 2013-09-12 21:40:02 UTC
Well, if they had the assets still, don't you think they would have released more than just one QC at the start? That, reportedly also got shrunk, as it was originally supposed to have a separate "disembarkment room" for the pod.

Just deductive reasoning, no trusted sources this time.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1490 - 2013-09-12 22:27:48 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Just deductive reasoning, no trusted sources this time.


The same would also apply to most of the "giev WIS naow!!!" posts in this and other threads. Most of the data and etc used to further that position are presented matter-of-factly, but in reality turn out to be only emotionally fueled and pulled directly from a rectum.

I'd love to see the stats regarding how many active players' characters have CQ turned on right now. But, CCP isn't likely ever to divulge that because of how small the number is, ya know, because :deductive reasoning: and all that.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#1491 - 2013-09-12 22:43:12 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
I'd love to see the stats regarding how many active players' characters have CQ turned on right now. But, CCP isn't likely ever to divulge that because of how small the number is, ya know, because :deductive reasoning: and all that.


...and that's another opinion presented matter-of-factly ...you know what they say about opinions and rectums, don't you? Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1492 - 2013-09-12 22:45:39 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
I'd love to see the stats regarding how many active players' characters have CQ turned on right now. But, CCP isn't likely ever to divulge that because of how small the number is, ya know, because :deductive reasoning: and all that.


...and that's another opinion presented matter-of-factly ...you know what they say about opinions and rectums, don't you? Blink


Reading comprehension is fundamental. I bolded the relevant bit to help.




There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#1493 - 2013-09-12 22:48:43 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Reading comprehension is fundamental. I bolded the relevant bit to help.

Ah... no, sorry, I don't get it... then again, English is not my first language.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Flamespar
WarRavens
#1494 - 2013-09-12 23:46:12 UTC
It was mentioned that about 25% of players have their CQ enabled at a previous CSM I think.

And this is despite there being nothing to do in it, and it no longer being where new players start.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1495 - 2013-09-13 00:47:41 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
It was mentioned that about 25% of players have their CQ enabled at a previous CSM I think.

And this is despite there being nothing to do in it, and it no longer being where new players start.

[citation needed]

Also, reading comprehension is fundamental. I have bolded and italicized the relevant bit.

Doc Fury wrote:

I'd love to see the stats regarding how many active players' characters have CQ turned on right now.




There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1496 - 2013-09-13 03:11:32 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
The same would also apply to most of the "giev WIS naow!!!" posts in this and other threads. Most of the data and etc used to further that position are presented matter-of-factly, but in reality turn out to be only emotionally fueled and pulled directly from a rectum.


CCP is never going to release the number of people who still have CQ turned on because the entire WiS fiasco was a huge black stain on the game and on CCP's reputation. I still don't understand why this thread is open considering Team Avatar has been disbanded and the roleplayers and furries have their own ghetto forum where they can go and talk about dance parties.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1497 - 2013-09-13 03:24:14 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
The same would also apply to most of the "giev WIS naow!!!" posts in this and other threads. Most of the data and etc used to further that position are presented matter-of-factly, but in reality turn out to be only emotionally fueled and pulled directly from a rectum.


CCP is never going to release the number of people who still have CQ turned on because the entire WiS fiasco was a huge black stain on the game and on CCP's reputation. I still don't understand why this thread is open considering Team Avatar has been disbanded and the roleplayers and furries have their own ghetto forum where they can go and talk about dance parties.


I think you are out of trash talk and if you are "claiming" that WiS is stop i think you got more issues than trash talk. The have sayed that the will reveal more in 2014 about the WiS and even open the door. Now please stop talking with your trash talk. Keep hating dude keep hating this will give more people to argue with you than any other dude telling about the real stuff.

The only problem with WiS is that people like you are a dude from the past. Saying like my old dad and my granpa that the "old" days are better. But you forgot if we stick in the past we die. Progress my boy progress the WiS will give eve a new look and better story telling better interact then chatting and see only some text..... Its like when the first chat boxs get life back in 1987. Every one wants to chat back then. Now nobody do. Progress keep your anger for your self. Let the new down get bird i bett you will like it even when you hate it the first time.

The WiS will boost eve online. Not only the $ but also more people that perhaps will stay.

The only fiasco is you`re kind of people sticking in the past afread to change. Thats why we still living on planet earth in real life. Get over your self keep your cave man reaction to your self. /end of debate on this matter.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1498 - 2013-09-13 03:37:02 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
The WiS will boost eve online


I guess you didn't play when Incarna was released.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

Lipbite
Express Hauler
#1499 - 2013-09-13 03:38:20 UTC
It's nice I don't have to worry about EVE WiS anymore - too busy running around my ship in Star Citizen hangar. Funny how $40 pledge may quickly turn into $65 and then $110 when you can sit and walk inside ships...
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1500 - 2013-09-13 03:40:37 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
It's nice I don't have to worry about EVE WiS anymore


You're welcome

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise