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you want more people going to nullsec? then buff highsec!

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#381 - 2013-09-07 12:44:44 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Roime wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I understand what eve is, a PvE game because 90% of the people do just that, and that needs to change


You still haven't provided any kind of facts to support your claim of 90%.


are you blind? go to to map and scroll over the systems, pirat ship kills vs. pvp shipkills its 1000 vs. 1

blocked! play the game before you start talking about it


NPC ships are about 1000 times easier and faster to kill than player ships.

Also, your mother sniffed glue.

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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#382 - 2013-09-07 12:45:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Roime wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I understand what eve is, a PvE game because 90% of the people do just that, and that needs to change


You still haven't provided any kind of facts to support your claim of 90%.


are you blind? go to to map and scroll over the systems, pirat ship kills vs. pvp shipkills its 1000 vs. 1

blocked! play the game before you start talking about it


And market oders dwarf npc kills by billions.


you are the best baltec1, play the game more then 5 years and think pvp frigs are the number one shipkill vs. rats, you must have been sleeping those years

posting on the forums you know, does not count to gather gaming experience

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#383 - 2013-09-07 12:51:58 UTC
Harry wrote:


you are the best baltec1, play the game more then 5 years and think pvp frigs are the number one shipkill vs. rats, you must have been sleeping those years

posting on the forums you know, does not count to gather gaming experience


You said PVE ships not NPC. Hence my answer.

Its up to you to use the correct terms in your argument.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#384 - 2013-09-07 12:52:26 UTC
what the hell are you talking about now? Of course any MMO will have more NPC's killed than actual players.. that doesn't take away from the fact that thousands and thousands of players get killed every single week.

I disagree
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#385 - 2013-09-07 13:00:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Harry wrote:


you are the best baltec1, play the game more then 5 years and think pvp frigs are the number one shipkill vs. rats, you must have been sleeping those years

posting on the forums you know, does not count to gather gaming experience


You said PVE ships not NPC. Hence my answer.

Its up to you to use the correct terms in your argument.


just excuses, it was clear what we are talking about

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#386 - 2013-09-07 13:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
SKINE DMZ wrote:
what the hell are you talking about now? Of course any MMO will have more NPC's killed than actual players.. that doesn't take away from the fact that thousands and thousands of players get killed every single week.


**** gets killed on average, its close to nothing, the main gameplay is PvE and you people want it that way, got it

PvP seems to scare you all, everytime i come up with an idea to bring more to the game, you all jump around like chicken

go kill your rats and run your missions, this is eve

the competitive PvP playerbase is completely missing

yet you are even against it to bring them in

you are all scared of some true enemies, rats seem to be the right challange for you guys

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#387 - 2013-09-07 13:05:07 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry wrote:


you are the best baltec1, play the game more then 5 years and think pvp frigs are the number one shipkill vs. rats, you must have been sleeping those years

posting on the forums you know, does not count to gather gaming experience


You said PVE ships not NPC. Hence my answer.

Its up to you to use the correct terms in your argument.


just excuses, it was clear what we are talking about


You said PVE ships. At no point did you even hint at NPCs untill many people told you that you were wrong.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#388 - 2013-09-07 13:06:36 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
what the hell are you talking about now? Of course any MMO will have more NPC's killed than actual players.. that doesn't take away from the fact that thousands and thousands of players get killed every single week.


**** gets killed on average, its close to nothing, the main gameplay is PvE and you people want it that way, got it

PvP seems to scare you all, everytime i come up with an idea to bring more to the game, you all jump around like chicken

go kill your rats and run your missions, this is eve

the competitive PvP playerbase is completely missing

yet you are even against it to bring them in

you are all scared of some true enemies, rats seem to be the right challange for you guys


Again, using your logic trading is by far the biggest activity and that is pvp.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#389 - 2013-09-07 13:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry wrote:


you are the best baltec1, play the game more then 5 years and think pvp frigs are the number one shipkill vs. rats, you must have been sleeping those years

posting on the forums you know, does not count to gather gaming experience


You said PVE ships not NPC. Hence my answer.

Its up to you to use the correct terms in your argument.


just excuses, it was clear what we are talking about


You said PVE ships. At no point did you even hint at NPCs untill many people told you that you were wrong.



so you did mean mission ships of players? close to zero die of those, use your brain

however, the game is 90% about PvE that was the point, and the rats kills was the proof of it

it was discussing PvE vs. PvP then you said, no no no, PvP is much bigger, you fail so much its not funny

people spend 90-99% of their time doing PvE not PvP... and you want to keep it that way, understood

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#390 - 2013-09-07 13:13:01 UTC
average gamer nees to kill hundreds of rats for hours to get a decent PvP ship that can get killed in within seconds

I wanted to change this, however it seems the playerbase likes doing PvE so much that there is no need for this

thanks for explaining

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#391 - 2013-09-07 13:14:04 UTC
Harry, have you ever did mission or PVE? Look like no.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#392 - 2013-09-07 13:15:09 UTC
When are you going to realise it is your ideas that are bad? It has nothing to do with players not wanting PVP, you are so delusional you have no idea about the amount of merc and pvp / pirate corps that are around, not to mention the very popular RVB or even FW.

There is lots of PVP in this game, yes you are correct that other games will have more kills, but those kills don't mean anything, like many others have already said it is quality over quantity. People remember the kills they have, there are stories behind them, nothing that can be said for those other games where you will make multiple kills within minutes of playing, they mean absolutely nothing.

Your ideas are bad, they don't fit in a sandbox, you don't seem to understand what that is.

You jump to conclusions, you don't think about the consequences on your ideas, you don't think about the players that play this game, you don't like the diplomatics, the meta game and everything around that. Sadly for you that is what this game is based on and what the players love.

Your ideas were pointed out a few pages earlier, and NONE of them are of any worth whatsoever, we are not scared of change, we just don't like ******** ideas that fit inside World Of Warcraft and not EVE.

Get real, for once in your EVE career, realise that you are wrong, and that the players here do not want your ideas. It has nothing to do with fear, PVE or the age range of players, it has to do with what kind of game EVE is, just think about it Harry. Although I have no faith that you will come to your senses, you have already confirmed to us that this is not the first time the majority of people think you are an idiot. You are not smart, you are not in charge of millions if euros, you do not have an IQ of 150, you are absolutely nothing but a little teenager having a little strop and tantrum his way through life.

It is very obvious by your attitude what kind of person you are.

I disagree
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#393 - 2013-09-07 13:16:24 UTC
highsec can not be buffed because all those decent ships we buy with the money would go to nullsec and trash the **** out of those alliances

nullsec alliances want it to happen that we go out there but with a maximum of T1 fitted ships like it seems, thats their only chance to survive

now it makes sense

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#394 - 2013-09-07 13:18:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
bloodknight2 wrote:
Harry, have you ever did mission or PVE? Look like no.


I run it at the beginning but it was way to timeconsuming... then I did go to null and realized thats even more timeconsuming

now i try to go to level 4 missions, its looking like that will take hours after hours killing newbrats, no fun, still more fun vs. waiting in nullsec for some ships to pass by

buts thats not the reason I play games, I play games to challange people and fight against people, in here you need to play 90% PvE so you can play 10% PvP

thats just wrong for an MMO

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#395 - 2013-09-07 13:24:29 UTC
Confirming that hisec mission runners can't afford 80bil Ravens

also true that if they took those 80bil Ravens to null, they would kill everything

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#396 - 2013-09-07 13:25:29 UTC
Quote:


so you did mean mission ships of players? close to zero die of those, use your brain

however, the game is 90% about PvE that was the point, and the rats kills was the proof of it

it was discussing PvE vs. PvP then you said, no no no, PvP is much bigger, you fail so much its not funny

people spend 90-99% of their time doing PvE not PvP... and you want to keep it that way, understood


Again, if we use your logic that 99% of people just kill rats due to the number of npcs that die then we must conclude that due to the trillians of market transactions made every month that the vast bulk of EVE just play on the markets. Given that this is a pvp activity it also means that most of us pvp rather than pve.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#397 - 2013-09-07 13:29:11 UTC
"Logic" isn't part of his vocabulary

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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#398 - 2013-09-07 13:30:55 UTC
Or brain.

I disagree
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#399 - 2013-09-07 13:31:21 UTC
People rat to replace ships because losing in EVE actually sets you back. If losing a ship didn't hurt then you'd have consequence free WoW style PVP. There are a whole crapload of games that offer that if you'd prefer constant meaningless PVP.
flakeys
Doomheim
#400 - 2013-09-07 13:31:43 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

just look at the map, who gets killed, its PvE ships, not PvP, the ratio is 90% for sure


Wrong again. The most killed ships in EVE are pvp fit frigates.


check the map dude! the ratio is 100 vs. 1 at least!

are you dreaming! login and check the map!

you all have no clue about what is done in this game! its PvE 99%! you can check every system every spot on the map

tens of thousands pirate ships destroyed each day, vs. 10-20 PvP ships on average... per system! nullsec is no different!


NPC ships don't count you raving lunatic. They fit ships better than you do, I'll give them that.


are you stupid man, he mentioned there are more pvp frigs killed vs. pve ships although the ratio is 1 to 100



Wich is a PLAYER versus enviremont ship.Notice it says PLAYER as in a PERSON.

You have surpassed the level of ****** lightyears ago harry the clown.

God how i pitty the people who have to be around you in rl.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.