EVE General Discussion

To a large number of people, ISK is gameplay. To me, ISK is the number of POSes I run, the number of haulers I can afford to loose while screwing up navigating through nullsec, and the amount of bling on my pvp alts weekly rvb "ganked"-run ship. To others it's the size of their missioning ship. And even if ISK is nothing more than the number at the bottom of the spreadsheet that calculates the monthly profit, it's still the gameplay someone has choosen. In a game with a real economy, you can't separate currency from gameplay.

If you want "gameplay" to mean "jumping around looking for fights with no other reason than to fight", I'd expect you'll find that the audience for that kind of gameplay is.... very limited. That's something fun once in a while, but as a constant motivation it fails.


You could have soloships magically popping up in peoples hangars every day and you'd only get a limited number of additional people into pvp and a miniscule fraction of that into solo pvp. The possibility to pvp in dirt cheap ships (e.g. T1 frigs) already exists and yet few people use it and fewer still use it as a possibility to solo. In my experience people care less about the value of the stuff they lost and more about the fact THAT they lost.


Again, I believe you strongly overestimate the number of people that are interested in this kind of gameplay, and you'll also find that most that are are already in one of the various pirate/merc/ganker corps. It's easy to believe that since you are a fan of a particular kind of gameplay, everyone else should obviously also be a fan of that gameplay (and if they're not than only because they haven't been shown just how cool it is or are held back by evil politics), but sorry, that's not the case.



Soooo.... play other games? Please? Maybe if we start a forum-wide collection and pay the first year of your brand new WoW account?



My suggestion is to play games where the playerbase (the currently existing playerbase, not the playerbase potentially attracted) is interested in that kind of gameplay.


Oh, as for the reply to my last post you posted while I wrote this, I'll refrain from full quoting but... your entire reply is "I suggested arenas"? Really?

Did he seriously just say Arenas?! One of the biggest reason's this game is awesome is the 1 server 1 shard! No instances! (minus the sometimes loneliness to missions)

You add one instance to this game people will fly to CCP's head office and burn that place to the ground! You thought Burn Jita was bad just imagine the corporate office with everyone locked in it burning! (Okay that last part was a little nuts)

those people I'm talking about are the masses, they are just not in the game, because some people in this game want to lock them out of it... not sure why you are scared of them

going to another game is a silly argument, if gamers want to have those gamemodes in a spacefight game then they need it there, not in a fantasy game they don't care about

/facepalm "no gamemode to have easy T1 vs. T1 fights" Seriously, dude they need to ban your account cause your trolling is atrocious. We both know thats all you do because there is absolutely no way you'd keep playing this game if you really thought half the **** you do.

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Same could be said about adding arenas. It will actually take away from the gameplay that is now in place. Anyone that enjoy's a PVP game will hate arenas. You obviously just want PVE with a splash of PVP when you get bored. Look at all the games taht did have your glorious Arena's minus that POS WoW cause thats for retards. Sorry I don't mean the mentally handicap in this regard as they are a little smarter than the ones that play it. They have sucked the life out of the game because people yes will flock to that arena but when you play the same arena over and over it barely changes a little here and there based on someone maybe flying a different ship than the last arena. In the end people will get bored because there is nothing really keeping them here since actual PVP and the goals of SOV would be pushed back and no one would be doing it.

Yea sure you are.
In between crying on the forums about everything, and trying out how to figure out how to tie those pesky shoelaces, you are a purchasing manager. With your obvious idiocy, at best, you'll be an entry level clerk with delusions of grandeur. At worst, you're 11, and haven't figures out how to tell a good lie.

you can keep the longtime motivation like sov fights and stuff, adding arenas would just add on top of that, for training and stuff... people could get into PvP faster, there would be various advantages... i would do nullsec stuff and then i can switch to some fast arena battles... just adds diversity, I do not always have time to go the nullsec route, sometimes i just want to have some fast PvP fight and logout again, SoV gameplay would still be the lontime motivation, one would not hurt the other

So why does every blockbuster tital have a 4-6 month shelf life before its abandoned?

And here is the problem. As i've said, "brliiant idea" people always fail because they don't see that everyone isn't like them.

While YOU would use arenas that way, others would use them and the things surrounding them differently. Some of those different ways could be detrimental to the overall game.

If you want easy pvp, what's stopping you from faction warfare, RvB, or just fitting a tech1 cruiser and jumping into low sec.

Funny thing is, in the same way that Infinity Ziona proved that what he wanted to happen (easier access to deep null) didn't need to happen by successfully raiding TRIBE space without logistical infrastructure or support, you proved that the game doesn't need arenas because you can already just jump into a destroyer and attack the HEARTLAND of the biggest coalition in the game at will......