EVE General Discussion

Why not.

Get the thing nerfed, then try again.

Not solo... small to medium gang, which is what CCP made the changes for, so that small to medium gangs could have some impact on sov warfare... obviously they cannot...

Same deal, just a small gang can actually be annoying enough to provoke a response.

Of course, most of those small gangs aren't set up to fight - they're set up to kill and be able to run away if a bigger force engages them.

Other than that, any change that benefits small gangs will benefit a big blob. Any change that nerfs the blob will nerf the small gang. That's mostly because the difference is just in numbers.

Hey, what can I say - they're adorable and make funny noises when you set them on fire.

Just you need something ot limit you in case you get carried away with the killing. Don't want to murder everyone today - you wouldn't have anyone to murder tomorrow!

With my limited experience in Null, any military solution will just benefit the big alliances... they have the power.

What this last war might have show is that ISK is their vulnerability. Increase the ISK cost of owning a system and reduce each systems passive income, might make it fiscally not worth the effort. A small active corp on the other hand could make the ISK easily.

Yes indeed, I was beginning to wonder how far into the dangerzone of offtop have we ridden off to. In a way, sov is in a needo of a total revamp - even for large groups it's boring to grind hundreds of structures, especially if it doesn't bring a fight.

Currently big wars end before sovereignity falls - morale, money, manpower fall first and the losing side evacuates instead of holding the hill. Admittedly, the shift to renter income made it a bit easier to hurt said alliances - beat on the renters and you'll eventually start hitting the landlord.

Farms and Fields deal, pos changes, everything has been requested and discussed and it's a big damn effort to fix it.

The shroud of sov grind has fallen. Begun, the renter wars have.

I say this winter patch 1.1/1.2 will mark the end of ship rebalancing, and with the whole "new decade" theme going on we'll see a New POS/Sov themed expansion at the next fanfest. The system wil be so good everyone will declare holy war on everyone and we'll see a global war and the end of the Age of Coalitions.

(Clearly, it'll be the dawn of the Age of Empires and all of null will be ruled by the victor - the Northern Clusterfuck Legion Empire Dot! We'll also rent hisec/lowsec.)

...but in a less mad-prophety way, I'd say the sov talk is on the table. However:

- Spaceship rebalance is easier to code
- Spaceship rebalance affects more people
- Spaceship rebalance = more tools to wage sov war once it's revamped

Once they're done with the base issues (which include POSes, for instance), CCP will surely take a look at the sov system being terrible.

Of course, people will still cry blue donut even after regions being burned down but at least the prospect of sov war (or sov-holding, because bills/infrastructure costs sure drive away some alliances) won't be a big factor on the "why not go to war?" list.

I haven't read everything because...well...it's 22 pages for gods sake. ANd I am new to the game...so if this is obvious or already been said then I apologize in advance.

BUT.....if this makes you so mad, then surely it will make others mad. If everyone gets fed up with the status quo, then the status quo must change. Null sec is the same as everything else. When something is disliked, then there are people who want it changed.

Instead of trying to get CCP to change the rules, why don't you go find people to help you fix the problem. If you can't, then go find someone who can. Instead of trying to change the rules of the game, why not go change the game according to the rules. That's what the CFC have done. If they can do it, why can't anyone else?

CFC haven't changed the rules. They're just doing what every large alliance / coalition has done before. CFC will either get disbanded (again) because someone got bored or CCP will change the rules (again) because they can. Not like CCP haven't changed the rules of the game repeatedly since EvE first came out.