EVE General Discussion

Maybe so, but I am not sure it would impact the Sovereignty issue in any meaningful way.

However in EvE this can't occur, everything, even a 100 million isk customs office, has 10's of millions of HP's, goes into reinforced, removing any chance that an alliance needs to organize itself to defend.

I'm embarrassed you're all defending it.

Raiding is finding where your enemy is not deployed, or weakest and destroying all their shite making them weaker.

The way EvE is at the moment the second option is not possible.

The way EvE is at the moment the second option is not possible. Meaning the fictional Groonstorm alliance, with its superior numbers and consequent superior income can facestomp any opposition into the ground without having to worry about overstretching, defending or logistical issues having such a large amount of space.

Now your just being silly aren't you? In a perfect world you wouldn't put up a POCO if you weren't intending to use it. You wouldn't flee to another system just because I'm in local and expect that POCO to be there tomorrow. At the moment you can because CCP protects your assets with huge amounts of EHP and recharge.

Just one giant doughnut of renter space!? Is this what eve has now become?
There's something seriously wrong here. How can an alliance hold space and yet not live there and then rent it out? Surely the game is about gaining space, and keeping hold of it? The amount of nullsec thats now become rental space is just crazy,

OK OK, some might say, well we are getting more people into nullsec, we are allowing people that couldnt get into nullsec a chance to. OK we will charge them stupidly high prices but meh we dont want that space anyway. and herein lies the problem.

Why arent nullsec alliances exploiting the mining riches, the anomolies etc to make there isk like everyone else has to, instead of being lazy so and so's? Really they should be having mass mining ops, or large anomaly bashing ops instead of being carebears (which ironically they moan about high sec carebears) these are 10x worse. They wont do anything, they cry about their passive moon income being nerf because they simply cannot be bothered to go an actually make isk.

Is this really where eve has gone and going?

I mean yeah live in a region and have a few renters to make that extra income like some alliance do, but look at Northern Associates for instance (N3)

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Northern_Associates.

I mean what 10 regions or more just PURELY to rent. Surely it cant be just me that sees something wrong here.

And yet during the Fountain war this exact thing happened on two different fronts to two different alliances. In one case the alliance decided to ignore their distant holdings in the hope they could re-capture them after the war was done. In the other the alliance had to re-deploy back to defend their distant holdings at the cost of abandoning the Fountain war.



No, I'm not. If you want a POCO to explode when someone looks at it funny you have to factor the cost of either importing and setting it up or maintaining a 24/7 defense fleet into every PI transaction because you have to assume if you don't babysit it it won't be there when you need to use it.

why not?
Such things have worked in the real world in the past. (yeah I did notice it's a game)

why not?
Such things have worked in the real world in the past. (yeah I did notice it's a game)

oh boy, I have to set the alarm clock to see those 5 kills... this is epic

Firstly the Fountain thing was a result of another flawed mechanic - being able to solo steal and disband an alliance.

As for the POCO, no one is suggesting it has the HP of a battleship, but they should not be functionally immune to small gang med gang raiding which they currently are, as are other assets in empty systems all over nullsec.

As for stationing people in systems, not necessarily required, but having a defense force nearby that can mobilize to kill raiders should be possible for a large alliance. If you can't manage that with a 10000 man alliance then you should lose those assets. And at the end of the day, its only a 100 million isk module.

Oh, I see. Lucas Kell, advocate for and defender of "the little guy". Is that why you've been running around on your alt(s) ganking noob mining barges? Are they somehow hurting "the little guy"? Are their Retreivers and Mackinaws a threat to "the little guy"? GTFOOH

Tell me what "little guy" has a POS up in the heart of sovereign null sec. Tell me what "little guy" built Mittaningrad. Tell me why this "little guy" needs to be able to repel all of the firepower in the entire galaxy for almost TWO DAYS, and tell me what he's going to do against that firepower once the reinforcement timer is up on his small tower.

Some stuff you can't do alone. Some stuff you SHOULDN'T BE ABLE to do alone, like hold multiple systems hostage for days without any effort or input on your part when there is a determined force working against you.

...yes they have...