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So this is it for eve, is this the future, is it?

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#161 - 2013-08-28 16:57:27 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Leigh Akiga wrote:
Endless moongoo threads lead us to this...


Threads "nerf high sec force them to null" incoming Soon™


Maximillian German wrote:
Don't even try to argue with Harry Forever. He is covered in 1600mm plates of pure idiocy.


You forgot the warp stabs, always more warp stabs Lol


you could team up, just checked Maximillians Scorpion fitting, that he lost, pathetic... real pros are on the start here

You mean The ECM Scorp? Seems fine to me.
Or is it that he can't possibly be a pro because he lost a ship? Like pros must never lose a ship to anything?

You fit dual warp core stabs to covert ops Harry. You are truly one of the worst EVE players in history, so let's not be talking about other peoples fits.


who told you i would fit warp stabs to a covert ops, every line you read you just misinterpret, this is so funny, but hey just try again :D

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2013-08-28 16:58:12 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:


Threads "nerf high sec force them to null" incoming Soon™


Maximillian German wrote:
Don't even try to argue with Harry Forever. He is covered in 1600mm plates of pure idiocy.


You forgot the warp stabs, always more warp stabs Lol


you could team up, just checked Maximillians Scorpion fitting, that he lost, pathetic... real pros are on the start here

You mean The ECM Scorp? Seems fine to me.
Or is it that he can't possibly be a pro because he lost a ship? Like pros must never lose a ship to anything?

You fit dual warp core stabs to covert ops Harry. You are truly one of the worst EVE players in history, so let's not be talking about other peoples fits.


who told you i would fit warp stabs to a covert ops, every line you read you just misinterpret, this is so funny, but hey just try again :D


your killboard does
WooMod
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2013-08-28 16:59:59 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Nobody is forcing you to rent nullspace. If you don't want to rent, form your own alliance and take it by force. IF you can.

TEST alt detected???


Strictly speaking he absolutely is being forced to rent nullspace, the economic realities of nullspace have created this reality.
Now that moons can't pay the PvP alliances bills, the main value of nullsec space is PvE resources now ergo space feudalism.

Rekon X wrote:

I have always wondered for years why any EvE player would join or even assist the CFC as by doing so they gain a reputation for incompetence and lack of intelligence. CFC only win by fighting 400 v 50 everyone in EvE knows that. CFC are fighting to gain all null sec moons. CFC leadership don't want to have good fights or fun content for its members or anyone else. They just want to spoon feed the members that its ok to fight 400 v 50 so that their personal isk increases. By helping the CFC you are literally destroying null sec for anyone who lives in it and most especially destroying it for the CFC members who will never know what it is to have a good fight, their future is sitting in 200 man gate camp on a high sec gate waiting several hours for a nube ship to jump in to null by accident. Anyone who doesn't realize that this is the future being fought for really is very stupid.

EvE players are meant to be more intelligent then people who play other games but clearly the very large majority who are either in the CFC or assisting them prove that in fact that although a small minority are in fact very intelligent, the majority have a much lower then average IQ.


Because words like "skill", and "honor" divorced from actual tangible -results- are utterly meaningless? There are no moral victories only real victories and real defeats.
Why aren't you smart enough to realize that simple fact?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#164 - 2013-08-28 17:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

who told you i would fit warp stabs to a covert ops, every line you read you just misinterpret, this is so funny, but hey just try again :D


your killboard does

Indeed it does, unfortunately forum rules prevent me from posting killboard links outside of C&P, but just for evidence the eve-kill id is 19281780

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#165 - 2013-08-28 18:00:06 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
William Walker wrote:

So, all the true, elite, gamers are in highsec and all the losers, antisocial, incapable of playing the game are in nullsec? They aren't playing? Then why are they in nullsec?
...



yes thats like it is, the game is played in highsec, check the map, kills the last hour, check it whenever you want, only in highsec something is going on, nullsec is dead, 1-2 ships destroyed per hour spread over 20 systems

players who want some action and want something to happen are in highsec, nullsec is just about grinding up ISK and having a fight once a year

I was not talkinga bout EC_P8R in my other post however it is boring, campers are dying there, because no ships jump through, maybe we just have a different opinion on excitement, just play another game once in a while but don't get a heart attack because of all the things going on...

I think there are too many people dictating the game who are just too slow phased, a new breed of younger people need to take over to bring some action, CCP better hands over the scepter fast

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/stats
Seems there's still thousands of kill happening across 0.0

And nobody will be handing you anything. nobody wants you here. Not even CCP.

Oh.. and Keep your hands off my scepter.


Most violent regions (24 hours)
Ships / Pods 0.0 Region
1. Map Curse 760 / 517
2. Map Delve 587 / 511
3. Map Providence 783 / 301
4. Map Stain 659 / 365
5. Map Cobalt Edge 562 / 374
6. Map Syndicate 555 / 279
7. Map Catch 404 / 416
8. Map Fountain 320 / 344
9. Map Immensea 257 / 266
10. Map Tribute 192 / 189
Ships / Pods Empire Region
1. Map The Forge 2975 / 638
2. Map Black Rise 1981 / 347
3. Map Metropolis 1842 / 455
4. Map Placid 1815 / 433
5. Map The Citadel 1791 / 364
6. Map Essence 1702 / 417
7. Map Heimatar 1540 / 352
8. Map Lonetrek 1528 / 300
9. Map Sinq Laison 1395 / 353
10. Map Domain 1239 / 366
Most violent systems (0.0)
(last 3h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map WD-VTV (Catch) 30 / 33
2. Map U2-28D (Scalding Pass) 32 / 18
3. Map 4-43BW (Scalding Pass) 33 / 8
4. Map NRT4-U (Stain) 25 / 16
5. Map 6-CZ49 (Syndicate) 19 / 10
6. Map E0DR-G (Cobalt Edge) 19 / 10
7. Map 1DH-SX (Delve) 12 / 16
8. Map G-G78S (Curse) 20 / 7
9. Map J5A-IX (Fountain) 15 / 12
10. Map LJ-YSW (Curse) 20 / 6
(last 24h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map 58Z-IH (Cobalt Edge) 349 / 220
2. Map NRT4-U (Stain) 374 / 64
3. Map 1DH-SX (Delve) 196 / 173
4. Map 9UY4-H (Providence) 190 / 108
5. Map WD-VTV (Catch) 109 / 105
6. Map TG-Z23 (Stain) 85 / 129
7. Map PR-8CA (Delve) 115 / 74
8. Map XX9-WV (Curse) 98 / 56
9. Map 4-EP12 (Fountain) 39 / 115
10. Map E-BYOS (Cobalt Edge) 71 / 57
Most violent systems (Low-Sec)
(last 3h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map Kamela (The Bleak Lands) 71 / 13
2. Map Rakapas (Black Rise) 48 / 1
3. Map Barleguet (Placid) 45 / 4
4. Map Old Man Star (Essence) 26 / 15
5. Map Tama (The Citadel) 29 / 5
6. Map Amamake (Heimatar) 23 / 11
7. Map Heydieles (Essence) 25 / 5
8. Map Soliara (Aridia) 22 / 8
9. Map Hadozeko (Metropolis) 18 / 9
10. Map Kinakka (Black Rise) 14 / 11
(last 24h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map Barleguet (Placid) 424 / 76
2. Map Kamela (The Bleak Lands) 238 / 63
3. Map Akidagi (Black Rise) 217 / 36
4. Map Tama (The Citadel) 206 / 39
5. Map Amamake (Heimatar) 130 / 106
6. Map Soliara (Aridia) 150 / 59
7. Map Kourmonen (The Bleak Lands) 157 / 19
8. Map Siseide (Heimatar) 162 / 12
9. Map Heydieles (Essence) 144 / 27
10. Map Innia (Black Rise) 156 / 14
Most violent systems (High-Sec)
(last 3h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map Couster (Essence) 92 / 3
2. Map Villore (Essence) 59 / 34
3. Map Jita (The Forge) 39 / 37
4. Map Hek (Metropolis) 43 / 25
5. Map Uitra (The Forge) 67 / 0
6. Map Clellinon (Verge Vendor) 56 / 2
7. Map Jouvulen (Lonetrek) 53 / 2
8. Map Deepari (Domain) 48 / 0
9. Map Trossere (Sinq Laison) 43 / 2
10. Map Hadaugago (Heimatar) 44 / 0
(last 24h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map Jita (The Forge) 362 / 310
2. Map Couster (Essence) 484 / 38
3. Map Uitra (The Forge) 517 / 4
4. Map Hek (Metropolis) 236 / 158
5. Map Clellinon (Verge Vendor) 381 / 9
6. Map Amarr (Domain) 188 / 142
7. Map Liekuri (The Forge) 315 / 0
8. Map Josameto (The Forge) 302 / 8
9. Map Deepari (Domain) 297 / 10
10. Map Hadaugago (Heimatar) 275 / 6
Most violent systems (Wormholes)
(last 3h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map J164528 (Class 4) 14 / 6
2. Map J103727 (Class 5) 17 / 2
3. Map J215935 (Class 4) 9 / 3
4. Map J144454 (Class 5) 8 / 4
5. Map J152325 (Class 5) 10 / 0
6. Map J155737 (Class 2) 9 / 0
7. Map J144751 (Class 3) 4 / 4
8. Map J112309 (Class 2) 4 / 2
9. Map J170552 (Class 2) 4 / 2
10. Map J223109 (Class 3) 4 / 2
(last 24h) Ships / Pods System
1. Map J100237 (Class 5) 32 / 2
2. Map J103727 (Class 5) 30 / 2
3. Map J100616 (Class 5) 24 / 2
4. Map J143706 (Class 2) 13 / 12
5. Map J145426 (Class 2) 14 / 6
6. Map J164528 (Class 4) 14 / 6
7. Map J211936 (Class 2) 10 / 8
8. Map J105232 (Class 1) 17 / 0
9. Map J214712 (Class 5) 10 / 6
10. Map J145715 (Class 2) 8 / 8

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#166 - 2013-08-28 18:00:20 UTC
Most active systems (0.0)
(last 3h) NPC Kills System
1. Map 89-JPE (Etherium Reach) 6403
2. Map BY-MSY (Esoteria) 5692
3. Map OSW-0P (The Spire) 4467
4. Map E1UU-3 (Esoteria) 4405
5. Map S25C-K (Catch) 4282
6. Map QY2Y-N (Oasa) 4255
7. Map O-N589 (Paragon Soul) 4223
8. Map OZ-DS5 (Oasa) 4077
9. Map X-CYNC (Oasa) 4015
10. Map JM0A-4 (Perrigen Falls) 3969
(last 24h) NPC Kills System
1. Map M-RPN3 (Tenerifis) 23303
2. Map 4H-YJZ (Outer Passage) 21185
3. Map 89-JPE (Etherium Reach) 19314
4. Map JV1V-O (Tenerifis) 19039
5. Map X-CYNC (Oasa) 17404
6. Map S-DN5M (Deklein) 15857
7. Map 8MG-J6 (Geminate) 15117
8. Map 30-D5G (Tenal) 14682
9. Map E1UU-3 (Esoteria) 14223
10. Map LJK-T0 (Impass) 14165
Most active systems (Wormholes)
(last 3h) NPC Kills System
1. Map J215930 (Class 6) 872
2. Map J225441 (Class 4) 688
3. Map J104857 (Class 6) 541
4. Map J204039 (Class 3) 527
5. Map J142520 (Class 3) 494
6. Map J145735 (Class 5) 491
7. Map J162349 (Class 5) 481
8. Map J140200 (Class 6) 420
9. Map J131702 (Class 1) 411
10. Map J100932 (Class 3) 382
(last 24h) NPC Kills System
1. Map J104857 (Class 6) 1415
2. Map J145735 (Class 5) 1403
3. Map J221203 (Class 1) 989
4. Map J215930 (Class 6) 872
5. Map J103812 (Class 5) 792
6. Map J140200 (Class 6) 773
7. Map J113243 (Class 3) 747
8. Map J225441 (Class 4) 746
9. Map J151817 (Class 6) 725
10. Map J162042 (Class 2) 678

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#167 - 2013-08-28 18:00:21 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Indeed it does, unfortunately forum rules prevent me from posting killboard links outside of C&P, but just for evidence the eve-kill id is 19281780


Poor Harry...this will give us something to laugh about in our intel channels the next time he tries to fly through our space.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#168 - 2013-08-28 18:01:07 UTC
Trade hubs are serious business.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#169 - 2013-08-28 18:11:34 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Indeed it does, unfortunately forum rules prevent me from posting killboard links outside of C&P, but just for evidence the eve-kill id is 19281780


Poor Harry...this will give us something to laugh about in our intel channels the next time he tries to fly through our space.

This'll make you chortle some more then, earlier today Harry claimed he'd never been PvPed by an industrial, guess what provided the tackle on that mail? Yep a hauler Lol

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State Protectorate
Caldari State
#170 - 2013-08-28 18:22:15 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
The alliances that hold the sov have worked hard and often had to fight another alliance for that sov. As long as they own it, they should be allowed to use the space however they want, even if it means renting it out. It's just like a real estate business. The people selling a piece of property to you don't necessarily have to be using it (that's probably why they are selling/renting it out in the first place).

The alliance renting out their space makes money, and the renters are able to live in nullsec without being tied down to said alliances. They an move in and do what they need/want to do for as long as they can pay for it. It's a win-win for everyone.

If an alliance doesn't want to rent out their space, they don't have to. Simple.


"Worked hard". I think owning 210 systems and renting ALL of them out is barely any effort especially if no one attempts to take the system. It's effortless ISK being paid to an alliance, if anyone tries to take any of the systems blob them to death. CFC for example is too powerful and other coalitions refuse to fight them full scale.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#171 - 2013-08-28 18:25:43 UTC
Lextron Saken wrote:
CFC for example is too powerful and other coalitions refuse to fight them full scale.
How so? The same was said about Band of Brothers, they were hugely powerful and wielded that power mercilessly. Nowadays they're a dead alliance, because someone did fight them on a huge scale, both in and out of game. That someone was Goonswarm and friends, the current nullsec giants.


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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#172 - 2013-08-28 18:29:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Rhes wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Indeed it does, unfortunately forum rules prevent me from posting killboard links outside of C&P, but just for evidence the eve-kill id is 19281780


Poor Harry...this will give us something to laugh about in our intel channels the next time he tries to fly through our space.


look in the mirror, even more fun for you guaranteed

I do not even have to look at your killboard to know that you not have one solo kill and not even have a single kill the first 3 years

edit: **** i was wrong, Jonah does not even have one kill his whole career :'D

and its even worse with Rehs, last solokill 2010, total solokills 10 in 4 years...

he's just killmailwhoring since he started

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#173 - 2013-08-28 18:34:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lextron Saken wrote:
CFC for example is too powerful and other coalitions refuse to fight them full scale.
How so? The same was said about Band of Brothers, they were hugely powerful and wielded that power mercilessly. Nowadays they're a dead alliance, because someone did fight them on a huge scale, both in and out of game. That someone was Goonswarm and friends, the current nullsec giants.





That's not entirely accurate.

You can also say that the only force to have defeated Goons were the Goons (not paying their bills) but then you'd have to ignore the fact that they just didn't start as the powerhouse they are now.

It took epic levels of douchbaggery to get there (everyone loves the Snookies of Eve over the Johnny Depp's I suppose).

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Din Chao
#174 - 2013-08-28 18:35:25 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Indeed it does, unfortunately forum rules prevent me from posting killboard links outside of C&P, but just for evidence the eve-kill id is 19281780


Poor Harry...this will give us something to laugh about in our intel channels the next time he tries to fly through our space.


look in the mirror, even more fun for you guaranteed

Yeah! I know you are, but what am I? BAM!! Got him, Harry!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#175 - 2013-08-28 18:38:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Murk Paradox wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lextron Saken wrote:
CFC for example is too powerful and other coalitions refuse to fight them full scale.
How so? The same was said about Band of Brothers, they were hugely powerful and wielded that power mercilessly. Nowadays they're a dead alliance, because someone did fight them on a huge scale, both in and out of game. That someone was Goonswarm and friends, the current nullsec giants.





That's not entirely accurate.

OK, BoB are dead, they were taken apart by Goonswarm and friends, with a little help from a director level defector within BoB. The whole alliance woke up one morning to find someone had pressed the big red button marked "do not touch" and disbanded it. For once the big red button pusher wasn't CCP Tuxford, satisfied?

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Spurty
#176 - 2013-08-28 19:40:35 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Once there was a snail who was tired of being slow. He went out and bought a really fast sports car and had the dealer paint a big 'S' on each side of it. He loaded it with hotties and grabbed Chribba and would get into car chases!

Whenever someone saw him zooming past in his new car, they would say, "Hey, look at that S-car go!"


You are welcome.


Made me smile in real life lol

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And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2013-08-28 19:53:38 UTC
Lextron Saken wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
The alliances that hold the sov have worked hard and often had to fight another alliance for that sov. As long as they own it, they should be allowed to use the space however they want, even if it means renting it out. It's just like a real estate business. The people selling a piece of property to you don't necessarily have to be using it (that's probably why they are selling/renting it out in the first place).

The alliance renting out their space makes money, and the renters are able to live in nullsec without being tied down to said alliances. They an move in and do what they need/want to do for as long as they can pay for it. It's a win-win for everyone.

If an alliance doesn't want to rent out their space, they don't have to. Simple.


"Worked hard". I think owning 210 systems and renting ALL of them out is barely any effort especially if no one attempts to take the system. It's effortless ISK being paid to an alliance, if anyone tries to take any of the systems blob them to death. CFC for example is too powerful and other coalitions refuse to fight them full scale.


Again, someone who has never left Hi-sec trying to talk about nullsec when they don't even know the basic mechanics of sov.

Think of it like mining an asteroid that needs 300 people to mine and still takes an hour to mine. Only all 300 of you need to mine it three times to get anything out of it, and you can only mine it once every 2 days. Then consider the fact that there are 300 other people that don't want you to mine it.

Then factor it in the fact you need to do this whole several times to take a system, dozens of times to take a constellation, and hundreds of times to take a region.

Do you see how it's hard work now? Taking and holding sov isn't as simple as putting a flag down.

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Caldari State
#178 - 2013-08-28 20:04:03 UTC
I'm curious. How many people actually want to rent from the Goons?

I mean is the market for renters that big and/or hasn't been saturated already?

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auraofblade
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#179 - 2013-08-28 20:11:12 UTC
Wait, you mean that oppressive collaboration is more effective than outright conflict? You don't say.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#180 - 2013-08-28 20:41:34 UTC
WooMod wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Nobody is forcing you to rent nullspace. If you don't want to rent, form your own alliance and take it by force. IF you can.

TEST alt detected???


Strictly speaking he absolutely is being forced to rent nullspace, the economic realities of nullspace have created this reality.
Now that moons can't pay the PvP alliances bills, the main value of nullsec space is PvE resources now ergo space feudalism.

Rekon X wrote:

I have always wondered for years why any EvE player would join or even assist the CFC as by doing so they gain a reputation for incompetence and lack of intelligence. CFC only win by fighting 400 v 50 everyone in EvE knows that. CFC are fighting to gain all null sec moons. CFC leadership don't want to have good fights or fun content for its members or anyone else. They just want to spoon feed the members that its ok to fight 400 v 50 so that their personal isk increases. By helping the CFC you are literally destroying null sec for anyone who lives in it and most especially destroying it for the CFC members who will never know what it is to have a good fight, their future is sitting in 200 man gate camp on a high sec gate waiting several hours for a nube ship to jump in to null by accident. Anyone who doesn't realize that this is the future being fought for really is very stupid.

EvE players are meant to be more intelligent then people who play other games but clearly the very large majority who are either in the CFC or assisting them prove that in fact that although a small minority are in fact very intelligent, the majority have a much lower then average IQ.


Because words like "skill", and "honor" divorced from actual tangible -results- are utterly meaningless? There are no moral victories only real victories and real defeats.
Why aren't you smart enough to realize that simple fact?


Guess you have to go with the only thing you are capable of. You go ahead and celebrate your "victories".

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew