EVE General Discussion

Essentially I agree with that. I think CCP has seen the writing on the wall for EVE and are readying themselves for a post-EVE scenario.

I don't know what where the plans for DUST 514, but it looks like a new scion was implanted on an old trunk, and rather than bring new life to the trunk, the scion has been tainted by the old trunk and is drying.

That begs the question, is it worth to keep adding stuff to EVE? Specially when the playerbase opposes everything not related to the old tainted complexity that pevents further development? You want to add a ship, that's four ships actually (1 per faction), and must be balanced against 200+ other ships b/c nobdy wants Supercaps 2. That doesn't helps innovation. And if you try to do something not entangled to spaceship gameplay... you're not welcome. Not at all.

So at the moment, WoD looks a way more promising game than EVE. Of course, I am the happy happy joy joy kind and i seriously doubt CCP can get it right with WoD (hint: it's nice to attract female players, but the kind of testosterone riddled ubercompetitive gameplay sported in EVE won't keep them interested for long). But nonetheless, just by being a new PI and being aimed at a bigger and unexploited niche, WoD is way more promising.

If I was an investor, would look at the bloody mess that it's EVE, the horrendous man-hours wasted just dealing with its nightmareish complexity, and would ask CCP to place my money on WoD. Wouldn't even comment on the price paid to have 3,000 guys online at DUST.

Think of it, there are at last two massive old crap iteration efforts pending: POS and SOV. Compared to the scale of the last expansions, we're dealing with fishing killer whales with the same tools providing us sardines each 6 monrhs. And even by fixing those two isues, CCP would be pleasing less than 10% the playerbase (an improvement over the "lucky 1%" in last expansions), and also would be risking to break the game completely.

There is no room left to innovation, player retention or playerbase increase for the next two years (the same as after Incarna)... unless CCP begins selling another game.

Well, i agree that i am in the pessimistic end of the spectrum. But i am not just seeing the world through a grim lens, there is something real behind my words.

Subscription numbers are deceitful as we're talking about accounts that provide less revenue per player. Yes, they have me subscribbed (+1 account, huzzah), but they've got 55 euros instead of 90 (-35 euros, sure they won't be missing them?). And hang me if I would be around if I had to pay full price for the reheated porridge they're serving.

Also, multiple accounts are becoming the latest marketing tool and mutliboxing is becoming a "standard procedure". They're not selling the game anymore, they are re-selling it to current and former customers. They're scooping in 2 or 3 years every former subscriber that could return and every current subscriber that could be interested (or forced) to have more than one acount. But then, what's after 2014? Who will be left to come, see the game is the same as when he left, and say g-bye for greener pastures?

WiS was the future, and CCP not only killed the future, but has deserted it even for the "core" gameplay.

And yet, "core" gameplay has stretched itself well beyond sustainable complexity. They really need to do OTHER things, totally unconnected to the core game, if they want to add new content.

According to Malcanis, there is a plan. But we're at the end of the post-Incarna plan and I can't see why did they bothered at all. POS untouched, SOV untouched, WiS abandoned and expansions barely deserve being called patches. Was this a plan?

Okay stop. STAHP.

CCP didn't kill it, they felt compelled to switch strategy to appease an angry player base who overreacted to an unpopular attitude, and have been leery of going back to it because of those precise same overreacting players.

Blame everyone who shot that statue in Jita.

This sounds like an obscure and seemingly irrelivent question, but chat boxes are still going to be available if this exploration stuff in implemented, right?

Mics are great and all, but a little impractical for those of us who can't talk.

I'm not personally sure I would want local broadcasted from inside an Avatar environment. A separate chat perhaps...

No not really, because an instance is inaccessible by others on the outside. By your logic, each system is an instance. Although you could see it like that anyone can jump into a system. So long as people can dock and join you (to kill you or otherwise), it's not really an instance the way Eve looks at it.

If anyone and everyone can find it and join it, then by definition it's not an instance.

If it was a special case of a new, on-grid chat channel, then I'd be delighted. Think of how many sci-fi shows have nearby ships hailing each other, but in EVE you can't do it (easily) without either whispering to one ship or shouting to the entire solar system you're in.

You can put the odds of CCP adding instanced content to EVE at zero.

You are obviously not from the internet.

I'm So Meta Even This Acronym

I personally think this would be fantastic. It would actually give function to something that's been so far only aesthetic in eve. The avatars. The extension of the economy into new areas would be awesome. But I think they should just wait to do this till after the complete the core gameplay changes. Like pos and sov and the ship rebalancing. But after that! Then holy crap could this be great!