Out of Pod Experience

uh huh

To argue that it is Chris Roberts with $14 million dollars, making a game with the potential to be great is literally going on blind faith at this point.

All I'm saying is, let's see some kind of software until we start making sweeping pronouncements. All we've seen so far is some people throwing money at a dude on the basis of a web page with a wishlist of features.

If anyone thinks that every single one of those features will be up and working in a Star Citizen game that anyone can play by 23:59 GMT on Dec 31st, 2015, then I'll offer to go double or nothing on their kickstarter investment; that is, if all the features are present, I'll pay them whatever they've kickstarted; if not, they can pay the same again to me.

Everyone said SW: TOR has potential, given that it was made by the (former) kings of RPG, Bioware. That went well.

If Chris will try to make a variant of EVE, he will fail hard. If he'll try to make a space simulator similar to Freelancer, he might succeed - but he won't be endangering EVE with it, as the only thing the games will have in common is space ships. That's all there is to it really.

Competition is good. We will have Eve, Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous. There's room for all of them I think. Star Citizen will be limited in scope (at least in terms of world size). Elite Dangerous is most interesting to me because it will eventually include landing on planets and will have a novel multi-player aspect.

If those players are only in EVE because they're waiting for EVE to turn into something it's not, then they'll leave sooner or later anyway, either to go play SC or some other game. How can CCP expect to keep people who don't like the basic game?

Yes, how can they? Why I am playing EVE if I absolutely hate some of its core design decissions?

It's easy: I've adapted, carved a niche, and there's nothing else to compare with.

The very first game I played online was not a MMO, rather a buy-to-play game with a PvP multiplayer addon which ran on private and often modded servers. It still does that, BTW, albeit the core game is 12 years old and the last update was in 2006.

The potential to re-sell the game to private server players who just need that-new-star-system is a pretty interesting side of SC. God knows that private servers are addictive, even if they're limited to 64 players (SC's will be larger though); the sense of community is strong when you always fly along and fight the same people.

SC is just a promise, for sure, wereas EVE is a reality, sure too. But there are no promises for EVE's future, nothing to look forward to. As much as I am not overly excited with my "investment" in SC, EVE feels like wasted money -namely 55 euros each 6 months. And I count on paying even less in the future.

If ISK is what people invested, I guess?

I believe there is room in the sci-fi game market for both to exist. There are going to be aspects within both games that players will hate & love. It will be up to the player to decide which game satisfies their sci-fi entertainment desires the most and invest their time and money there. And if time, finances, and real life responsibilities permit, perhaps players can enjoy both concurrently; just log on to the game that appeals to your whim at the moment.

Chris Roberts has a great track record when it comes to making games, past products he delivered were highly entertaining and profitable(big Wing Commander and Freelancer fan myself). So, I can understand why people invest in his kickstarter fund. But, I will wait until it is closer to the release date for SC before I make any judgements on the game's merits. And as others have written previously, if CCP considers SC to be worthy competition, maybe it will galvanize them into finally producing bug squashing patches, Drone AI fixes, POS overhauls, etc and finally content that appeals to all the playstyles which EVE's sandbox can offer.

It's needless to say your opinion every time someone post something I think we've all understood your position.