EVE General Discussion

It doesn't even look good or amazing and it certainly doesn't add to the immersion. To me the camera movement makes it weird and "unnatural" and the whole tunnel thing just feels awkward. I would really like a way to disable it.

What would also work, to me at least, is if you don't actually get the ship's perspective but instead the camera stays focussed on the gate and you see your ship zoom off. No weird camera rotation, zooming in or out. Just the gate's perspective, see your ship whiz off, switch to the new gate and see your ship arrive, and while that's all going on you have control over the camera.

cool i like how the camera auto turns i can see how this may bother ppl though so an option to toggle it on/off would be great but i would also like to be able to see my ship in the jump tunnel make it cloak just b4 landing in new system would be nice would be cool to control the cam during the jump too i think these are the main issues right?

It's hard to condense 10 years of EvE management attitude in 3 lines. You succeeded!


On a related matter: welcome aboard on the game whose most important leaders went through ideas like: GREED IS GOOD, "buy $1000 pants", "we know better".

I wouldn't blame CCP for wanting to make more money, they're a company and that's what they even exist to do (as soon as they went the company route, it's about the $$$$$$$$. Sure make a game, but it's now a business).

But what I do have a problem with is the ignorance about some basic things in game design (which is like suicidal behavior for companies...hurting your cash base is not wise).

If something is physically hurting your players you fix it ASAP.

When MoP was released in WoW they had a healer spell effect that literally blinded raids (white out conditions - it slipped QA too). Within days it was fixed (I didn't even realize the effect was that evident, but before I could find out, it was fixed). Blizzard didn't wait for a month to change an animation, they got to see it, the results....fixed.

The difference here is Blizzard could go back and see it, test it and fix it within days. The foot dragging of CCP is troubling, as they can get someone they trust to check it out and deduct what's wrong, and fix it within days too. It's going on a month now.

A key part of the game is using the gates. A key part now makes a portion of their player base sick. This is a serious problem, a break down of communication; a break down of even caring about your customers. They're treating it like that text font response, that folks will just adapt and it'll go away.

An epileptic's seizures doesn't just go away.
A diabetic's need for insulin just doesn't go away.

This is a physical reaction to the game. It doesn't go away, because the underlining reasons for being sick can't be fixed by the player himself.

Astronaut Alan Shepard is a classic example of having a medical condition that caused him to lose being an astronaut for years, until he got experimental surgery to fix it. He could not fix it himself. Like an epileptic can't be cured of his seizures or that diabetic can't just grow a new pancreas.

It's stunts like this that give sandbox games such bad names. You can't have a good sandbox game because the devs treat it like it's a litterbox themselves. They crap in it too, then use it as an excuse for imperfection.

EvE isn't ready for prime time if they can't even fix an animation that makes players literally physically sick. No excuse for letting something of the magnitude to not be patched within a week.

And I'll add one of the last remarks from Gus Grissom before he died in the Apollo 1 fire (he was so frustrated with the endless basic operational problems of the Apollo program, and died doing his damnest to fix them)...

"How are we going to get to the moon if we can't talk between three buildings?"

AAA games are AAA because they take away the training wheels and excuses. They learn from their mistakes and keep on improving. Not stay stubborn to protocol and culture and die in a ball of fire...and repeat if again [Challenger] and again [Columbia].

It already has been posted, but this is just too good to not repost.

Now just picture your ship instead of the Tardis, and the jump tunnel opening around your ship and engulfing it. I wish
i had the video-fu to show.

(Dr. Who theme would be optional, and also the play time of animation loop, adjustable from 1=current length to, say, 5x)

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Ops, it was that tunnel he is referring to! Thought he meant gate tunnel .... my mistake.

And as for what you write here, I can only agree. Give me that tunnel - this I could live with. But an off option is now still clearly preferable!

EDIT: forgot - and NO cam overtake please thank you!

EDIT: double post - pardon!

Feels like a movie, seen once, the effect is pretty cool, but after being forced into seeing it very often it's just annoying.

It did when switching servers meant switching times of the day. When CRZ first came out servers weren't all on the same time zone. There were flight paths you could hop onto that would switch you between zones constantly, causing a disco effect of going from night to day. It took them a few months to move all the servers to a universal time so it didn't happen. If you don't think it's something to get sick over, good for you. There's plenty of people not getting sick over the new gate animations too.

I quite like the new jump animation thingy.

Of course I also remember when CCP proved their hatred and contempt for the players by dooming EVE to die within a couple of months by changing the font.