EVE General Discussion

The warp tunnel was an annoying experience for a large group of players, until you gave us the option to turn off camera shake.

Taking over camera control is the most jarring part of gate jump. It shoves us into a first person perspective. Please find a method, perhaps optional, to make it more like the regular warp tunnel, centered on your ship, with no forced camera move needed.

I would rather complain about gate jump "CCP is out of ideas, their new gate jump looks just like the warp tunnel, with a different texture/shader."

I'll also post this about polish: there's a problem with matching this animation with how our ships approach the gates in the first place.

When the ships can literally bounce in, around and on the gates, but all of the sudden you're hit with this gate entry that is focused and "correct" it doesn't add up (if the gate entry can be so centered, why can't the approach be the same?). That's a major mismatch.

Would be better to have it like a ship is loading into the dock (not a tennis net). It'll keep a forward looking camera angle (important in a PvP game to be centered and ready when jumping through gates); eliminate the bouncing ships effect and look appropriate, not ad hoc.

Added: think of the modern runways at airports and the magnetic and light tracking that is used to center planes on landing/takeoff (a feature added after some horrible aviation disasters).

The lack of request for changes to the warp tunnel is probably related in part to the fact that there is no forced camera reorientation for warping.

The warp tunnel doesn't twists around your view. The ship keeps still and the warp tunnel "opens" and "moves" around it.

It would be cool that the interstellar warp tunnel opened exactly that way, "swallowing" your ship wherever it is (and preferably w/o zoom nor anyhting that drastically alters the view while your vestibular system didn't expect).

It's intriguing how an animation that causes motion sickness was greenlighted without anyone noticing that it would cause motion sickness for reasons that have been known for 70 years. Suffering/ignoring it for months to come is just standard CCP procedure, though.

My issue is that I'll see the jump animation and have some slight panic thinking that I'm lagged out because I thought I jumped, but it looks like I am still in the warp tunnel. This is aggavated when multi boxing when I'm not completely focusing on all my characters.

As far as a direct comparison
- I play fully zoomed out while in warp, and I almost always make sure I am looking sideways when in the warp tunnel, not straight into it
- it's less in your face, there's still the background (I always disable camera shake)
- Where you are looking isn't being changed on you

The tunnel is absolutely fine. Any movement of the camera that is not strictly & specifically user controlled, triggers nausea. This doesn't show up as an issue on the 1st or 2nd jump. But go 10, 20, 30+ and the issue/effect adds up, becoming impossible to biologically adapt to (at least if you value regularly flying in space, jumping from system to system with a spaceship, in New Eden). Of course if you're a huge fan of CQ and can't get enough of it, or station trading, you're set.

Can we make the new jump effect more nauseating (sp?). I'm serious, I wanna hear more moaning and bitc...I mean puking about this new effect. It's massively funny. In fact, go to great lengths to make this new effect even projectile vomiting inducing. We can call it Puke-Gating.

+1 for more Nausea! (Because it doesn't affect me this way I guess )

How is this still up for discussion?!

I alt tab out of game EVERYTIME i jump a gate. Why all the spinning. Why on EVERY gate... make it stop!

Please give us the choice CCP!!

The WH effect doesn't even do anything!!!

Tomba, nice post. This was the reason for my question, as the jump tunnel should have a similar effect as the warp tunnel - give you a sense of rapid movement through the space between systems.
You should be able to chat etc while in jump. Scanning makes no sense as there is nothing to scan there, but that said the basic idea should be similar.

So all those things yeveryone has been saying "this is why we are not complaining about warp", those are the things we need to look at fixing ;)

You need us to answer that question???

"why aren't we complaining about the warp tunnel?"

For a start, that is some cheap logic. I suggest you get your money back! If we don't complain about Cloaking does that mean you aren't going to fix AF's ? Or how about if we don't comment on ship bumping... does that mean you won't fix captains quarters?

Leaving for a moment that the nature of warping around system hasn't really changed in the 10 years the game has been around, and that changing the jump animation and camera spin is a undeniably HUGE intrusive adjustment.... (I mean a slight graphic when you warp (that on most machines you can barely notice) is nothing compared to the jump gate ordeal!)

42 pages on this thread, countless other threads popping up nearly daily, complains on the FB page, twitter and other EVE fan sites, CONSTANT comments made in 'help' channel and even people suggesting that they play the game less because of it suggests that MAYBE you (the people taking the money) shouldn't be saying things like "there is no old system" but instead asking "what options the players might like?"

People now talking about vertigo... These are some MAJOR red flags. Sort it out! FFS we have even given you multiple viable options!!