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I'd like to see tags4faction the way tags4sec works

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Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#121 - 2013-06-15 23:36:32 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

...i just do not want to grind level 1 missions because i did some faction warfare, thats all...


If you're talking about a one-time thing, then you can go turn in tags. It's a one-time deal, it's what you're asking for.


If you're wanting to switch back and forth...well....no.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#122 - 2013-06-15 23:39:43 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
but thats the point it does not make sense to play level 1 missions for hours if you have a high trained character, people don't want that, they want a different way to fix the standings, maybe a challanging way but not boring level 1 missions for hours
Who are you to say what people want?

As a “high trained character”, blitzing those missions is ridiculously quick and easy, and can actually be a fun diversion — you're back in small and nimble ships rather than the lumbering beasts that got you in trouble in the first place.

Moreover, as an older character, you will have had to time to learn that this is the price you pay for burning your bridges with one of the empire factions.

Quote:
the plan just shows that the faction standing mechanic has issues for a lot of players
Eh, no. It shows that there is no issue since it's such an easy hole to dig yourself out of. So far, you haven't put up much in the way of a convincing argument for why it needs to be adjusted other than “I don't want to do it”.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#123 - 2013-06-15 23:42:56 UTC
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

...i just do not want to grind level 1 missions because i did some faction warfare, thats all...


If you're talking about a one-time thing, then you can go turn in tags. It's a one-time deal, it's what you're asking for.


If you're wanting to switch back and forth...well....no.


exactly as this game is intended to be played for years, i want to do half a year faction warfare and then do other stuff, and not have to do boring level 1 missions to repair things, if you only play one way sure then its not an issue
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#124 - 2013-06-15 23:45:14 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

...i just do not want to grind level 1 missions because i did some faction warfare, thats all...


If you're talking about a one-time thing, then you can go turn in tags. It's a one-time deal, it's what you're asking for.


If you're wanting to switch back and forth...well....no.


exactly as this game is intended to be played for years, i want to do half a year faction warfare and then do other stuff, and not have to do boring level 1 missions to repair things, if you only play one way sure then its not an issue


Exactly. No. You cannot do that. We don't want you to be able to do that easily. If you don't want to "do boring level 1 missions to repair things', then STOP BREAKING THEM.
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2013-06-15 23:46:32 UTC
Op

if you look how the factions corespond to each other, for example, lets say you are bad rep with Gallante, then you can do Minmatar, Sisters faction missions and gain Gallante standing.

If you have poor Caldari standing, do missions for Amarr, or other factions that results in gain for Caldari.

Its a puzzle though, couse gains results in loss fromsomething else, but you dont need to grind lvl1 missions, you could do Sisters lvl4 in Caldari Space, and gain Gallante standing
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#126 - 2013-06-15 23:48:15 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
i want to do half a year faction warfare and then do other stuff, and not have to do boring level 1 missions to repair things
…and as luck would have it, you don't have to.

Beyond that, the intended way to play the game is to live with the consequences of your actions. If you keep messing up your standings, you either have to live with being hunted in parts of space or live with having to grind them up again. Or just choose not to mess them up.

Decision → Consequence. Don't like the consequence? Make a difference decision.
Baldour Ngarr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2013-06-15 23:50:56 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

I want to do everything in the game and the game needs to adjust to my skills



That's only true if you wrote the game. Otherwise, it doesn't have to do a damn thing for your benefit. YOU need to learn how to play IT.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#128 - 2013-06-15 23:51:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

...i just do not want to grind level 1 missions because i did some faction warfare, thats all...


If you're talking about a one-time thing, then you can go turn in tags. It's a one-time deal, it's what you're asking for.


If you're wanting to switch back and forth...well....no.


exactly as this game is intended to be played for years, i want to do half a year faction warfare and then do other stuff, and not have to do boring level 1 missions to repair things, if you only play one way sure then its not an issue


Exactly. No. You cannot do that. We don't want you to be able to do that easily. If you don't want to "do boring level 1 missions to repair things', then STOP BREAKING THEM.


you don't understand that i want to play all parts of the game intensively and not just one profession, the game needs to adjust to that, because that is what hardcore players are looking for, if you only run one or two missions on the weekend sure you never need what i'm talking about, however my playstyle is different

tags4faction will not harm your playstyle so you should be fine with it, beeing resistant just for the sake of it does not help
Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
#129 - 2013-06-15 23:51:33 UTC
OP raging about how unfair EVE is, doesn't realize that is what makes EVE....EVE!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#130 - 2013-06-15 23:54:10 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
you don't understand that i want to play all parts of the game intensively and not just one profession, the game needs to adjust to that
No, it really doesn't, largely because it already allows you to do exactly what you want. You just don't want to play by the rules of the game.

If you want to do something, just go and do it. The game isn't stopping you — you are.
Baldour Ngarr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2013-06-15 23:54:14 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
[quote=Smohq Anmirorz][
you don't understand that i want to play all parts of the game intensively



We understand; we're just laughing at you. EVE doesn't work like that. Your actions have consequences, and you have to live with them.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#132 - 2013-06-15 23:54:21 UTC
Fey Ivory wrote:
Op

if you look how the factions corespond to each other, for example, lets say you are bad rep with Gallante, then you can do Minmatar, Sisters faction missions and gain Gallante standing.

If you have poor Caldari standing, do missions for Amarr, or other factions that results in gain for Caldari.

Its a puzzle though, couse gains results in loss fromsomething else, but you dont need to grind lvl1 missions, you could do Sisters lvl4 in Caldari Space, and gain Gallante standing


don't think that will work if i start playing 3 month factional warfare, if i do that, i will endup with desasterous standings
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#133 - 2013-06-15 23:55:21 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
OP raging about how unfair EVE is, doesn't realize that is what makes EVE....EVE!


I'm not raging, I just say that mechanic is outdated and needs to be adjusted
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#134 - 2013-06-15 23:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Harry Forever wrote:
I'm not raging, I just say that mechanic is outdated and needs to be adjusted
…without giving a good explanation of how they're outdated or a reason why they should change, other than “but I don't wanna!” — i.e. raging.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#135 - 2013-06-15 23:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Baldour Ngarr wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
[quote=Smohq Anmirorz][
you don't understand that i want to play all parts of the game intensively



We understand; we're just laughing at you. EVE doesn't work like that. Your actions have consequences, and you have to live with them.


yea you all reapeat the same line so you are cool... again, consequences are ok please read, its the mechanic to fix it that needs to be changed because it is outdated and boring
Mimiru Minahiro
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2013-06-15 23:57:21 UTC
I think that standings tags would be a nice addition if you could smooth out the kinks.
Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
#137 - 2013-06-16 00:08:32 UTC
The mechanic is fine. I have had to grind standings just like others on here have, and I do not hear them raging. For the record, I am in FW and my standing with Caldari has not suffered much. In fact, if I were to drop from FW I could easily go back to running missions for Caldari. The fact of the matter is that you want your "EASY" mode button, because you can't be bothered to grind the standings, and are too supid to know that you should DECLINE missions that have you fighting Faction navies.

And for the personages on here saying you don't need alts, how do you think you are going to move capital ships around with just your main?
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-06-16 00:12:28 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


you don't understand that i want to play all parts of the game intensively and not just one profession, the game needs to adjust to that, because that is what hardcore players are looking for, if you only run one or two missions on the weekend sure you never need what i'm talking about, however my playstyle is different

tags4faction will not harm your playstyle so you should be fine with it, beeing resistant just for the sake of it does not help


I am not resistant for the sake of it.

You are asking to be able to shoot one navy for six months, then be neutral for six months, then shoot them again for six months, then be neutral again for six months...and you want these transitions to be easy.

Well I like it that if you shoot someone's navy for six months, they have a hard time trusting you again. That's the consequence of your actions. That's how it should be. Again, I hope you learn to appreciate this mechanic, because it is working as intended.
Zircon Dasher
#139 - 2013-06-16 00:14:02 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
The mechanic is fine. I have had to grind standings just like others on here have, and I do not hear them raging. For the record, I am in FW and my standing with Caldari has not suffered much. In fact, if I were to drop from FW I could easily go back to running missions for Caldari. The fact of the matter is that you want your "EASY" mode button, because you can't be bothered to grind the standings, and are too supid to know that you should DECLINE missions that have you fighting Faction navies.

And for the personages on here saying you don't need alts, how do you think you are going to move capital ships around with just your main?


Argument: I was a mindless bot for a couple weeks in order to grind up from -10..... AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO!


Also: friends

Also: Hrrrrnnnnng more plz

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#140 - 2013-06-16 00:14:17 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
The mechanic is fine. I have had to grind standings just like others on here have, and I do not hear them raging. For the record, I am in FW and my standing with Caldari has not suffered much. In fact, if I were to drop from FW I could easily go back to running missions for Caldari. The fact of the matter is that you want your "EASY" mode button, because you can't be bothered to grind the standings, and are too supid to know that you should DECLINE missions that have you fighting Faction navies.

And for the personages on here saying you don't need alts, how do you think you are going to move capital ships around with just your main?


the only ones stupid are the ones who call others stupid all the time, control your temper a bit, you are the only one raging here

again i do not want an easy way, i just don't want to do boring level 1 missions for hours, i want to have a better way maybe challanging to fix the standings

because of your comment however i need to block you, pay attention in the future how you talk to people...