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I'd like to see tags4faction the way tags4sec works

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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#1 - 2013-06-14 19:19:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
honestly the NPC Faction Standing hinders you to play the game like you want to play it, it feels like a cage put on the endless possibilities the game has to offer, for me it feels like the biggest drawback

Edit: in particular the fast negative impact on the standings when you play missions or factional warfare makes it impossible to enter other faction space with your character if you want to change playstyle or do trading, grinding up endless hours of level 1 mission does not feel like the right solution here

Edit: as the character skill training is so timeconsuming I prefer just playing with my main, therefore I would prefer a better way to repair damaged faction standings

Edit: the discussion brought some good ideas, maybe a tags4faction should be added simular like the tags4sec
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#2 - 2013-06-14 19:28:04 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
honestly this just hinders you to play the game like you want to play it, it feels like a cage put on the endless possibilities the game has to offer, for me it feels like the biggest drawback


Why? Is it the working up from nonfactor to beloved with factions that you don't like - or the fact that you wind up picking sides by what you do - or ???
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#3 - 2013-06-14 19:28:45 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GrV3OZdjP8

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-14 19:29:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Then there would be no consequences for pve activities outside of "I might get ganked for my shinies".

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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#5 - 2013-06-14 19:32:57 UTC
Elliavir wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
honestly this just hinders you to play the game like you want to play it, it feels like a cage put on the endless possibilities the game has to offer, for me it feels like the biggest drawback


Why? Is it the working up from nonfactor to beloved with factions that you don't like - or the fact that you wind up picking sides by what you do - or ???


the problem is if i run some missions the standings go down too fast with the other factions, and if it goes too low I'm unble to access their space anymore as the npc navy will attack me, however i need to go around as I'm trading a lot, basically i wanto to run missions and do all stuff in the game but when it hinders my trading it blocks me from doing it...
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2013-06-14 19:33:37 UTC
0/10

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#7 - 2013-06-14 19:34:09 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Elliavir wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
honestly this just hinders you to play the game like you want to play it, it feels like a cage put on the endless possibilities the game has to offer, for me it feels like the biggest drawback


Why? Is it the working up from nonfactor to beloved with factions that you don't like - or the fact that you wind up picking sides by what you do - or ???


the problem is if i run some missions the standings go down too fast with the other factions, and if it goes too low I'm unble to access their space anymore as the npc navy will attack me, however i need to go around as I'm trading a lot, basically i wanto to run missions and do all stuff in the game but when it hinders my trading it blocks me from doing it...


Trader/Hauler?



Distribution Missions


"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#8 - 2013-06-14 19:37:07 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Then there would be no consequences for pve activities outside of "I might get ganked for my shinies".


yea i know, however it just feels like it hinders me to play the game to its full potential, maybe they should make it possible to pay down the negative standing with ISK, I don't know... mabe also reduce the power of the navy ships so you just have to fight in negative empire space but not get killed immediatley...
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#9 - 2013-06-14 19:37:33 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
0/10



-1
Zak Matrix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-14 19:43:01 UTC
Try avoiding missions where you have to shoot faction navies, killing those faction ships hits your standing a lot. Hits from storyline missions are minimal compared to that.

And you can always train diplomacy, and go through the faction standing repair plan.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#11 - 2013-06-14 19:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Zak Matrix wrote:
Try avoiding missions where you have to shoot faction navies, killing those faction ships hits your standing a lot. Hits from storyline missions are minimal compared to that.

And you can always train diplomacy, and go through the faction standing repair plan.


yea i know, for the missions thats a possibility but for faction warfare? basically i can not take part in that because of that mechanic, at some point it takes far too long to get the standing up again, the repair plan also takes ages

i want to be able to try out everything, but with all the time put into the character if feels like I don't want to screw the standing too much because it could lock me out of big areas of the map, it just does not feel right
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#12 - 2013-06-14 19:54:42 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Elliavir wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
honestly this just hinders you to play the game like you want to play it, it feels like a cage put on the endless possibilities the game has to offer, for me it feels like the biggest drawback


Why? Is it the working up from nonfactor to beloved with factions that you don't like - or the fact that you wind up picking sides by what you do - or ???


the problem is if i run some missions the standings go down too fast with the other factions, and if it goes too low I'm unble to access their space anymore as the npc navy will attack me, however i need to go around as I'm trading a lot, basically i wanto to run missions and do all stuff in the game but when it hinders my trading it blocks me from doing it...


Trader/Hauler?



Distribution Missions




you don't get it, I want to paly everything not just parts of the game!
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#13 - 2013-06-14 19:56:47 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Elliavir wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
honestly this just hinders you to play the game like you want to play it, it feels like a cage put on the endless possibilities the game has to offer, for me it feels like the biggest drawback


Why? Is it the working up from nonfactor to beloved with factions that you don't like - or the fact that you wind up picking sides by what you do - or ???


the problem is if i run some missions the standings go down too fast with the other factions, and if it goes too low I'm unble to access their space anymore as the npc navy will attack me, however i need to go around as I'm trading a lot, basically i wanto to run missions and do all stuff in the game but when it hinders my trading it blocks me from doing it...


Trader/Hauler?



Distribution Missions




you don't get it, I want to paly everything not just parts of the game!


Your right I dont get it


Cake + eat it? or just trollolol? Only the fan can decide.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Zak Matrix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-14 19:58:52 UTC
Like I said there's ways to repair your faction standing.

Unless you want to be part of FW an still be able to go enemy area without being shot at,
I don't think that would work anyway.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#15 - 2013-06-14 19:59:56 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:


Your right I dont get it


Cake + eat it? or just trollolol? Only the fan can decide.


stupid non helful comments = blocked!

ciao!
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#16 - 2013-06-14 20:00:18 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:


Your right I dont get it


Cake + eat it? or just trollolol? Only the fan can decide.


stupid non helful comments = blocked!

ciao!


Cya o/

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#17 - 2013-06-14 20:01:03 UTC
At ten in the morning
I was laughing at something
At the airport terminal
At nine in the evening
I was sitting crying to you over the phone
Well passing the border from a state to another
Filled with people whom I couldn't help to relate to
And we stopped a while at a roadside restaurant
Where the waitress was sitting outside smoking in her car
She had that look of total fear in her eyes
And as we drove away from there she looked at me and
She smiled

I keep running around
Trying to find the ground
But my head is in the stars
And my feet are in the sky
Well I'm nobody's baby
I'm everybody's girl
I'm the queen of nothing
I'm the king of the world

And once you asked me well what's my biggest fear
That things would always remain so unclear
That one day I'd wake up all alone
With a big family and emptiness deep in my bones
That I would be so blinded, turn a deaf ear
And that my fake laugh would suddenly sound sincere

Now I wasn't born for anything
Wasn't born to say anything
Oh I'm just here now and soon I'll be gone
I'm nobody's baby
I'm everybody's girl
I'm the queen of nothing
I'm the king of the world

Now everyday there's a short intermission
While I sleep they start dimming the lights
But I've seen everything I ever want to see
Screaming "Fire!" in a theater people taking their seats
Watch it all go down like a stone in a stream
If you fall for your reflection you will drown in a dream

Tell me something real
Tell me something true
I just want to feel there's something left that I can do
But I'm nobody's baby
I'm everybody's girl
I'm the queen of nothing
I'm the king of the world

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#18 - 2013-06-14 20:02:20 UTC
Zak Matrix wrote:
Like I said there's ways to repair your faction standing.

Unless you want to be part of FW an still be able to go enemy area without being shot at,
I don't think that would work anyway.


just want to do it some time and leave it again, however after that my standing would be hit so bad i would need to invest boring hours into the repair plan, thats why I did not do it yet, like i said i just do not feel it is the optimal solution for the game, for me it feels like more of a hindernis to play it openly
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#19 - 2013-06-14 20:04:30 UTC


I'm told my idea of seduction is a bit passe'
I hear you like to try it so I'll try it anyway
I would try anything I swear I'd try it here and now
I might impress you with a Rudolf Valentino bow
I tell you to get your attention I'd do anything
I would work night and day for all the joy that she would bring
I'd like to be the hunter who gets captured by the game
Oh won't you run your fingers through my mane

I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too
I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too

I want fun I've gotta run to you

To me you look just like a treasure chest of pretty things
Already told you I would buy you ten real diamond rings
Oh let me tell you I got lots of things that you could use
So don't reject it or I'll get the love rejection blues
I tell you baby any wish of yours is my command
I'd pay you money if you'd only say you'd hold my hand
I'd speak in languages that only you could ever hear
Oh baby baby, won't you please come here


I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too
I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too

I want fun I've gotta run to you

I said I'd pay you money if you'd only hold my hand
I hear you like to try it so I go ahead as planned
I hear my smoochie talkin' might just be a bit old hat
So I'll watch what I'm sayin' I don't think you'd go for that
A little birdie told me that you just might feel the same
If you do then all you have gotta do is call my name
I would do anything I swear I'd do it here and now
I might impress you with a Rudolf Valentino bow

I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too
I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too
I've gotta have my cake and eat it
I've gotta have my cake and eat it, too

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-14 20:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Seetesh
Right first off try another game, second stop moaning and crying like a little girl about a mechanic that has worked for so well for so long. You need to adapt! Third I have no problem coming to help relieve you of your mission ship and pod.

Ten years + here and 14 accounts and I have done it all just sub another too. Or go play wow.
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