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Player Rewards for Live Event Participation and Contribution

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#21 - 2013-05-15 21:54:58 UTC
I could see this sort of thing hurting the RP community.

We'd see people joining just for loots and more people attempting to showboat events and interactions. Nor would I want to see the **** storm that happens when someone gets a rare ship and others feel slighted or just have an OOC/IC axe to grind.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#22 - 2013-05-15 22:01:36 UTC
The LP option seems the most viable option. As then you can award everyone present at a live event (even by random chance) the same amount of LP, just to different factions based on actions (Need at least 3 pre-determined factions, one for Pro Devs, one for Anti Devs, and a third for neutral people). Then there is no favouritism, nor unique loot since it's all going to already exist in the LP stores. But if a person attends a lot of live events, the LP will add up over time to be able to purchase things.
I wouldn't mind live events having a bit more draw to get involved. They are effectively missions. And missions do have LP rewards.

But the rare shiny ships hurt events, if given out as loot, or even if Devs just fly them everyone wants a shiny KM.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2013-05-20 09:55:27 UTC
Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Lol

Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#24 - 2013-05-20 12:41:43 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Lol

Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.

On that note, though not really live events, but I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships. Live Events not being the right way obviously :). But a way is highly desired. (& not P2W either)
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#25 - 2013-05-20 12:57:01 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
...I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships.


You're kinda missing the point of their rarity.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2013-05-20 20:48:55 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
...I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships.


You're kinda missing the point of their rarity.


Titans used to be rare too.
CCP Falcon
#27 - 2013-05-21 01:38:55 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Lol

Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.


I thought I'd already responded to this thread but clearly forgot to.

CCP Goliath says it all Smile

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-05-21 08:41:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
CCP Falcon wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Lol

Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.


I thought I'd already responded to this thread but clearly forgot to.

CCP Goliath says it all Smile



Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc Big smile

The ships in themselfs would make the event lol

No Worries
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#29 - 2013-05-21 13:22:19 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Lol

Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.


I thought I'd already responded to this thread but clearly forgot to.

CCP Goliath says it all Smile



Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc Big smile

The ships in themselfs would make the event lol


I fly them when I'm messing around on Sisi sometimes. We thought about using them in the dev caravans once but felt it was distasteful to the collectors.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#30 - 2013-05-21 13:33:23 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto Lol

Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.

Unique ships shouldn't be brought back, I agree.
But could we have something else? Nothing like good equipment, mostly just vanity items. For example, when an FW faction takes an entire warzone, their people get a medal. That kind of thing is nice - it's just like an 'I was there' thing.

Someone.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#31 - 2013-05-21 23:41:50 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:


Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc Big smile

The ships in themselfs would make the event lol

That ruins events as much as anything else.
Devs flew TTI in an event. Goons showed up en mass to gank it just because it was a TTI. And since it was Highsec, there was literally no way to defend against a mass gank on overwhelming force. That will happen any event a shiny rare ship comes out at, people will target it just to be on the killmail, with no thought to who is in it.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-05-28 14:33:25 UTC
As perhaps the biggest fan of the mega hull I would insist that the Fedathron never have any sisters added.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#33 - 2013-05-31 13:42:11 UTC
I had a thought about this, relating to the EVE 10 Years Collector's Edition, and the golden pod & related implant contained in it.

Sure, handing out Imperial Apocalypses or Federal Megathrons isn't a good idea, however!

What about an implant that makes a normal (or Navy) Apocalypse look like the Imperial Apocalypse ?

The collector's edition golden pod implant turns an ordinary capsule into a gold one.

So why not a special live event reward implant, to turn a Navy issue ship into one that looks like a rarer issue one ?

Wouldn't devalue the existing ones, but would allow those ship models to be seen in space, and encourage people to get involved in things.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#34 - 2013-06-01 08:16:22 UTC
Will sell soul for implant, that would make normal (or Navy) Apocalypse look like Hello Kitty Apocalypse

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In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Heinel Coventina
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-06-01 18:14:47 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:


Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc Big smile

The ships in themselfs would make the event lol

That ruins events as much as anything else.
Devs flew TTI in an event. Goons showed up en mass to gank it just because it was a TTI. And since it was Highsec, there was literally no way to defend against a mass gank on overwhelming force. That will happen any event a shiny rare ship comes out at, people will target it just to be on the killmail, with no thought to who is in it.


Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then?
Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#36 - 2013-06-01 23:01:55 UTC
One of the best events I've ever witnessed was a pair of traders (maybe Thukker?) in and around the Amamake area auctioning goods that had no gameplay value but had very interesting IDs and icons, such as heads in jars, and other crazy tokens.
Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#37 - 2013-06-02 02:47:27 UTC
Heinel Coventina wrote:
Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then?

Yes. Every single one. :P No one likes escort missions in other games, they aren't any better in Eve.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#38 - 2013-06-02 05:06:32 UTC
Svetlana Scarlet wrote:
Heinel Coventina wrote:
Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then?

Yes. Every single one. :P No one likes escort missions in other games, they aren't any better in Eve.

Snipehunt... Fail. In a legit manner. So..... Convoys aren't scripted success, but nice try.
However shiny ships getting ganked because the Devs are attempting to make it an event, rather than cloaked blockade runners leaving at an undisclosed time from an undisclosed location to get the cargo through, simply isn't fun. And will rapidly kill that type of live event for anyone except gankers.
cerbus
Carpe Noctem.
#39 - 2013-06-09 06:35:13 UTC
~800+ unreleased ships in the client files... just say'n

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Aggrofighter
Ghost Pirates
#40 - 2013-06-11 13:47:38 UTC
I heard this "How can you judge if some1 deserves a reward, and some1 not" often.

There's an easy way... lets say (for example): Event Starts (System is about to collapse maybe) and every player is getting a
Mission that leads them to this Event.

The First Mission completes when ariving at the Event-System. After that, there are certain ways to join the event.
Mining Missions, Security Missions, Courier Missions and so on...

So that for everybody there's something he can do.

The Missions could be all Event-Specific (with Storyline behind it and stuff!) and the more you do, to prevent the system from collapsing, the higher your reward will be.

Something like that?
What do you think about it?
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