Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Cutting you off there because if you're not concerned about cross training this whole thread is irrelevant and you are being absolutely ridiculous. Go PMS in someone else's game.

There are more important skills in my queue that will immediately affect my character that is a priority. I actually just bought the skill books for Gallente, but it will take over 2 days away from vital training. Yes, that is my choice to do but in the end I will lose my progress towards Battlecruisers.

That in essence is why these skill changes cheat newer players. I cannot afford to spend days/weeks training up skills that won't immediately affect me.

In the end, it's my money to pay for this game and if CCP decides to change the game and forces me to train something that I am not ready to train or else my progress will be lost, then... That's the bottom line issue.

if you think ccp is cheating on you,you just sit tight and observe.its gonna happen a lot :D

Yes, because training to fly a hull and being able to use that hull effectively are two different things. Please stop throwing around terms you apparently have no idea how to use.

Furthermore, your character is two years old nearly. IE, not a new player and thus doesn't really have any valid input. You can afford to waste days/weeks training skills because as you mentioned you have multiple characters and probably a good skill set for generating isk. New players do not have those same luxuries. If I want to effectively mine, mission, or do anything in this game I need to better those skills first. Training to fly hulls is not going to line my pockets with isk.

Yes they are two different things. And just because you cant use it efficiently right this second doesn't mean you cant use it or use it with a modicum of success.

I have experience, and have had to make the same decisions that you have to make right now. Even at nearly 2 years old I made the decision to pause my training and train battle cruisers and destroyers and train caldari cruisers up so that I could use dread gruistas pirate ships once I had the shield and missile skills to use them.
2 days will not break your training on other things, and in a month you will be glad you did.

It's three days.

Three days.

What is so important that it cannot wait three days to train? Hell, two and a half, less if you have implants.



If this is your response to three days of skill training, I think you should take a look at how long battlecruisers V takes...

Three days is a long time for a new player. I'm training Industry V right now which takes 5 days. While I know some skills takes weeks, months even, it still has a huge impact for lower SP characters.

I am, however going to invest in Gallente as a lot of the Pirate ships need both Gallente and Caldari.

You must've missed the part where I mentioned I played for a few weeks and then stopped playing Eve... and only recently came back. So yes, I joined nearly 6 months ago but have only been active for about 2 months.

Even so, it's three days. In the grand scheme of things, three days is utterly meaningless.

I lost FC V to a stupid mistake, that was near 40 days to retrain. I'd love to be able to complain about three day skills after that. In a few months, you'll be begging for three day skills to train.

Do you have anything constructive to add to this discussion? No? Ok then. The facts are simple, this skill change hurts new players. The time it takes to train frigates IV and cruisers III for every race can be better spent training other things. Even though two weeks may mean nothing in the grand scheme long term of things, it means a lot to a new player who can train a multitude of sub skills instead that can be used to effectively better their character now and not 1-2 years from now.

Also, I am not into the lets have 5 different characters. I know that is seemingly a must-have for this game. Though my character will be a do-all type of character. Again, my money and I'll play how I want so no need for your feedback on that. That means, I am training combat, industry, mining, refining, exploration, etc. My skill plan is laid out and already projected for months ahead.

Those are all skills I can use now that will ultimately help my character progress in this game. If you don't agree with my opinions then good for you, but please add something constructive instead of just being a typical forum fanboi who knows-it-all.