EVE General Discussion

Personally I am of the opinion that they need to figure out what they want to do with the NeX store, before adding new items to it. Pricing issues aside, as in-game micro transactions stores go its pretty badly done.

The three things they would need to fix
- Be able to purchase Aurum ingame.
- Add something other than clothes, like ship skins or upgrades to CQ.
- Redo the store front, add filters (sex, price range), packs of clothing.

Or get rid of it entirely and allow us to produce these things ingame.

shiny? where's the shiny?

ccan i play with it? blow it up? gank it? steal it?


(reaction from last years AND this years fanfest at the stuff shown)

sadly, doubt any of the COOL stuff will make it in, just balancing stuff and touch ups like the APOC

It's like 5A.M. I'm bored. Came up with an idea. Like most ideas birthed at this hour, it sounds totally genius to the person who created it, but totally dumb to everyone else lol. In any case, not sure if anybody came up with something similar before, but here goes: What if WiS played like Eve?

What if instead of WASD and all that, you clicked to move. Right click or do whatever to get behind cover. See an enemy? Right click, aim, choose firing type (suppressive/covering: takes no time to lock/aim and you just shoot in the general direction, careful: takes a second to lock/aim but shoots actually have a good chance of hitting, etc etc).

But what if no one moves from behind cover? Make all the cover destructible. Engineer the layouts so flanking is a common tactic. Put up terminals around the station that activate formerly deactivated defenses and things like that.

Can't imagine how this would play? Well then, may I redirect you towards a little game, lost to the depths of time, called Full Spectrum Warrior. Maybe WIS wouldn't play exactly like that, but I think you get what I'm envisioning after watching that.

In any case, how would this be relevant to Eve? First and foremost, the obvious thing to do is make it part exploration. Scan the station down, suit up, explore. If you bettter loot, you'll have to go to a lower sec. Second, introduce weapons and armor that can be manufactured by other players obviously.

Third, introduce a new ship class that would essentially be, for all intents and purposes really, really mini versions of supercarriers in that they carry clone bays so if you die in a station, you can respawn at the ship and go right back in. The downside is that, obviously, due to their size, they could only carry a limited number of clones and players. For the huge, huge stations, you would, in theory, benefit from having a few of these on an excursion. You could land at one of these stations with a regular ship, but the idea is you would pretty much have to leave whatever ship you brought with you outside while you went in and handled your business. And, if you died, you would have to respawn the normal way. With this new ship class, it solves both those problems. Maybe give it a ton of tank, but very limited offensive capabilities so if pirates show up, it gives the excursion crew a chance to get to the ship and escape and/or wait for backup or whatever.

I don't really want to exclude the solo player, but I'm not sure how to handle this. Maybe create an even smaller ship class with a different kind of clone bay that allows an extremely small number of respawns like 1-2 or something like that. That way if someone ambushes you in the station or something, you'll be back in your ship and you can hightail it out of these.

Now, we all know PvP is a major part of the game (Captain Obvious over here...) so, to help encourage it, make it so these abandoned stations and new ships are relatively easy to track down. For instance, if you send some probes out and they pick up the signature of the station, they would also pick up the signature of one of these new ships parked outside which means you can round up some buddies before you go in and cause some chaos.

I've also been thinking about how to make this relevant to anyone who also cares about DUST. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they mentioned at fanfest they were thinking about doing something with the clones you get in that game. Well, what if you needed the type of clones produced in DUST to explore one of these stations in Eve? Give it some dumb lore reason too lol. Whatever works. That way, any corp (be it in DUST or Eve) can essentially make money from the exploration industry without actually exploring. They just sell the things that help fuel a section of that industry.

I dunno, just a dumb idea I came up with. Probably full of holes to pick through, but just wanted to know what other people thought just for the sake of discussion I guess.

Not so sure about the point and click idea. I don't think it would feel real enough. As for the clone ship, that is a cool idea. So long as people can still board the abandoned structures using a normal ship (no respawns). People often quote how capsuleer tech is not the same as the dust tech but do you really think the most powerful beings in the universe couldn't get hold of some for themselves? That's more far fetched than the alternative. I know if I were a capsuleer I would want some those dust clones/implants for any time I had to spend away from my ship.

I know a good few friends who found it stupid that there was only one room. They got so excited when they saw the graphics in the CQ, and were so disappointed when I told them that was all there was to their Avatar.

This. Microtransactions in a subbased game is the worst thing ever.

I think CCP is far too scared to raise their heads from the bunker at this point. I hope that I'm wrong and that one day we'll get some actual new content from them again but, I'm not holding my breath. The focus on fixing longstanding problems, re-visiting parts of the game that hadn't been touched in years, refactoring old code and other under the hood work has benefited Eve greatly. There's no doubt about that. But, those aren't the kinds of things that get people excited, that draw in new players, that generate buzz.

I kept playing back when I was newish and frustrated with the complexity of the game in part because of the promise that one day we'd be able to get out of our ships and interact with others in different ways. From the days when I read articles on gaming websites about what was then called Ambulation, through Torfi showing off a demo of what was then known as Walking in Stations at Fanfest, I was excited about the future of Eve. I couldn't wait to see what would happen next. Then came the crash and burn that was the Incarna/Nex Store release and CCP's subsequent decision to hunker down in the bunker and play it safe.

After all the talk of focusing on spaceships, no new "Jesus features", the disbanding of Team Avatar and the like, I've pretty much given up on the CQ door ever opening.

Oh well...I guess at least we got the industry's most advanced forum portrait generator to show for all this, huh?

Retribution brought in a LOT of new players actually. Something like 30% of the playerbase was rookies.

Just like no one gives a **** what you think. 0/10

NeX store should contain items which enable sandbox station stuff. Like for instance a deed or licence for a station shop (which they have to pay rent on) or a temporary license to attack another player. The player that loses is sent to the medical ward and gets a debuff or something.