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Noobs, do not be afraid of lowsec. It is where fun is :)

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Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
#41 - 2011-10-27 12:16:07 UTC
I moved to low sec recenltly too. Less time invested for similiar or greater profits. Seems good to me.
Jaxemont
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2011-10-27 14:19:43 UTC
Anshio Tamark wrote:
Low-sec isn't worth the increased amount of risk taken. I've recently moved to low-sec, but I have yet to see any actual increase in income from being there.

Could you be a bit more specific in how you're trying to make money in lowsec?

Lowsec isn't a good place to make money off rat bounties. Ratting and missioning aren't worth the risk, I'll admit that. Stick to highsec missions if that's how you like to make money. (Ratting is best done in 0.0 anyways).

Lowsec PI can make some decent money, if you know what you're doing. I know somebody who can make over a billion per month in PI. (Though that could be with an alt.) Still, 500m per month for mostly passive income can't be too bad.

Exploration in lowsec isn't too bad either. Though you have to go out of your way to places no one is likely to go. If you expect to get a bunch of sites near a hub, you're probably out of luck.

Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
#43 - 2011-10-28 10:30:43 UTC
Exploration in low sec is fantastic (more sites as most people are afraid of going into low).
Faction warfare missions.
Planetery interaction.
Salvaging (T2 ships wrecks from PvP combat - intact stuff sells for alot).
Ganking haulers.
Ransoms

Lots of good sources of income.
Justin Credulent
Luv You Long Time
#44 - 2011-10-28 12:47:18 UTC
Quote:
Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ishRoll

1/10 poor troll is poor.


Don't try so hard - you actually look like you're overcompensating now.

Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships!

Cerisia
Red Phoenix Rising
#45 - 2011-10-28 22:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Cerisia
Justin Credulent wrote:
Quote:
Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ishRoll

1/10 poor troll is poor.


Don't try so hard - you actually look like you're overcompensating now.



Um yeah.......whatever....
This space for rent..
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-10-29 12:42:49 UTC
Jennifer Starling wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Jennifer Starling wrote:
My only problem with podding is losing implants worth several hundred millions of ISK.
And it's not that skilltraining isn´t already extremely sluggish without them ..


Jump clones are the answer here.

Imho the whole implant stuff is one of EVE´s worst game mechanics - why have them while you better don´t use them for a day every single time you PvP?!



Make a JC that has 20 mil worth of +4s for whatever the attirbute you are training and a few 3% hardwires (if you need/want them) and just jump back and forth.

That being said a LOT of people fly some expensive implants in low-sec, because you stand are pretty high chance of getting you clone out. I've lost 33 ships in the year I've played but only 4 clones and two of them were my fault, aka I screwed up.

If you are in the S-button as you go down it takes a remote sensor boosted interceptor who's watching for it to catch you, you will usually get away.
Justin Credulent
Luv You Long Time
#47 - 2011-10-30 03:23:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Credulent
Because being forced to pay millions of ISK or else get podded is so much fun!*


*That is, if they honor ransom.

(PS: Schmata Bastanold is cute because she's one of those "wannabe psycopath" players)

Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships!

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#48 - 2011-10-31 11:28:55 UTC
Justin Credulent wrote:
(PS: Schmata Bastanold is cute because she's one of those "wannabe psycopath" players)


well, thank you for those kind words :)

yesterday I was some kind of Tuskers groupie because I hang out in Havrice and other lowsec sectors nearby where they were flying, even played hide and seek with Mara Abraham for a few moments, exchanged some literature related words with her on local and then followed few Tuskers across several sectors luckily avoiding being scrammed and webbed by Suleiman Shouaa at one of gates.

but I suppose not very far into future this groupie will get gangbanged and that will scar her twisted mind even more :)

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-10-31 22:22:07 UTC
Justin Credulent wrote:
Because being forced to pay millions of ISK or else get podded is so much fun!*


*That is, if they honor ransom.

(PS: Schmata Bastanold is cute because she's one of those "wannabe psycopath" players)



Bah, Bastards are the only corp you pay a ransom, most of the rest the standard response is **** you, just pod me.
Cunane Jeran
#50 - 2011-11-01 02:19:52 UTC
Lowsec is as safe or as dangerous as you want it to be.

That said, nice work on going out there and giving it a bash in the humble Rifter. We could do with more young pilots fighting, it's just plain fun (and good for the economy)
Xi 'xar
Mise en Abyme
Caldari Alliance
#51 - 2011-11-01 09:38:46 UTC
I applaud the OP for this post.

Lowsec doesn't need fixing by CCP (some things could use some work, sure) - it needs fixing by the players, specifically by a change in their attitude towards lowsec. Every new player should know that getting into lowsec is easy, relatively safe (if you have done a bit of research) profitable (again, do some reading) and can be extremely fun (even if you lose).

http://herdingwolves.wordpress.com/

Praxis Astra
0.0 Axis Fleet
Stealth Syndicate
#52 - 2011-11-02 02:47:53 UTC
I could not agree with you more.

I do a lot of exploring in NPC nullsec and sov nullsec as well as low sec and sometimes there's trouble but I routinely go on 20-40 jump trips and make it through seeing some nullsec hi jinx.

Low and null sec are just more interesting.

Big smile

Praxis Astra Master of Assassins and Punctuality http://heartsandmindsalliance.org

Neriko Hakaari
Doomheim
#53 - 2011-11-02 18:48:23 UTC
I just bought a few new frigates to try it out as im quite fresh in eve. Jumping closer towards 0.0 as I am typing this and I must say that I'm really excited :)

It doesnt matter if I get killed or not, I can always buy new ships, however I cannot buy back lost time from staring at asteroids.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2011-11-05 00:19:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
Justin Credulent wrote:
Quote:
Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ishRoll

1/10 poor troll is poor.


Don't try so hard - you actually look like you're overcompensating now.

You have nothing constructive to add to the thread, and you've been trolling since you got here. You, actually, look like the one overcompensating.

Didn't like low-sec myself, WH's are much more to my taste, but I commend the OP for at least *trying*.


Good on ya' m8!

EDIT TO ADD:

Onictus wrote:
Bah, Bastards are the only corp you pay a ransom, most of the rest the standard response is **** you, just pod me.

The Bastards have a policy of honoring every ransom that they make... They don't always offer a ransom, but if so, they *WILL* honor it!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Hugo Mesmopotian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2011-11-05 08:13:36 UTC
Hello there,

well for me as an beginner aka "noob" (I´m playing EVE for a month now) low sec is not really an option atm. Ok, I have already some frigates to waste, but first I´d like to learn more about the game and train my skills higher.

One thing is clear to me though, I definitely don´t waste the rest of my EVE-life with all the carebears in high sec.
Hedoran Jaynara
Cromwell Holdings
#56 - 2011-11-05 09:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Hedoran Jaynara
Hugo Mesmopotian wrote:


well for me as an beginner aka "noob" (I´m playing EVE for a month now) low sec is not really an option atm. Ok, I have already some frigates to waste, but first I´d like to learn more about the game and train my skills higher.


On the contrary. The things you learn about the game in low sec can not be learned in high sec. And you don't have to have many skillpoints either to visit low sec. Many people say to them self, "not yet, I'll just wait until I get *insert random skill* before I enter low sec."

The quicker you go, the sooner you realize:

a) This isn't so bad at all, I'm still flying my ship

and

b) The thrill of watching your surroundings is something you never will experience in high sec, and once you've felt the sweet taste of danger that may be lurking around the corner, you never want to go back to high sec again. :)
Zeth Neccro
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2011-11-05 10:33:00 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
And what I personally don't like there is a common attitude "oh, don't go there, bad people will hurt you if you do". uuh, me is terrified so much, I better cover my head with blanket and read ghost stories instead...

Because I paid money to see beautiful interiors of CQ and wait until I will be "ready"...

Truth is that sneaking around lowsec is fun. Nobody's in overview but scanner detects a lot of ships. You check their info (cause you are noob, you don't remember what is dangerous yet) and they are pretty nasty. "Will I make it to a gate or will they jump on me?".

Or when you find some lone ship all those thoughts running through your heads: "is he alone?... is it a trap?... do I have a chance?... will I escape if sh*t hits the fan?... omg, omG, oMG, OMG he's locking me!!!".

It is all fun, at least to me. And without those emotions I don't think I would pay my subscription.



BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! *applause*
VR Highfive
Hayabusa Logistics.
#58 - 2011-11-05 11:22:36 UTC
+1 like for the OP because she is taking the risk and having fun. Big smile

And I agree getting blow up in the learning proces of PvP ain't so bad.

Get in fights, get messy, loose ships, have fun.

Learning solo PvP, one explosion at a time.

Aida Nu
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2011-11-05 13:43:07 UTC
Hugo Mesmopotian wrote:
Hello there,

well for me as an beginner aka "noob" (I´m playing EVE for a month now) low sec is not really an option atm. Ok, I have already some frigates to waste, but first I´d like to learn more about the game and train my skills higher.

One thing is clear to me though, I definitely don´t waste the rest of my EVE-life with all the carebears in high sec.


I got my first kill in lowsec when i was 2 weeks old :)
Give it a shot!
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#60 - 2011-11-06 19:35:54 UTC
@ OP

Nice story and all only it just shows that pvp in eve online is dead.
Low sec pvp is mostly gatecamps and the same thing goes for null sec.

Going alone pvp is just asking to be killed and your post confirms this, if you see a target which looks to good to be true.
Its a baitship and you get scrambled as soon as you start attacking only to be killed by a larger group.

Being killed like cannonfodder in a game where the gameplay is all about skillpoints and fittings and basicly has the most passive gameplay i have ever seen is not fun.

Sure you only lost your cheap tech 1 frigate only you did loss your implants which costs way more then that frigate.

You can of course take a jumpclone without implants to pvp with only that basicly causes you to loss 48 hours of optimized skill training.
Which already take ages to complete.

I tried it several times using a fitted ship i didnt really care about to try and search for some fun pvp in low/null sec.
The only thing i came across are gatecamps.