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Dont change the 2/10 plexes!

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Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
DECOY
#281 - 2013-01-01 02:53:10 UTC
Ok CCP, the holidays are officially over :)

Show Molden Heath some love.
Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
#282 - 2013-01-01 23:29:01 UTC
When these get looked at after the holidays can you guys NOT try to reinvent the wheel outside of the spawning problems? Just put them back and add some more to low sec. I'd rather not wait a year for "new and improved" ones that have more problems than the "old, tried and true" ones.
xxxAlloxxx
Better Off Red
Unspoken Alliance.
#283 - 2013-01-02 14:58:07 UTC
The support from the community on this has been wonderful. I'm excited to see what CCP Dev's will do, I'm hoping for the best, don't disappoint me m8's. Also Hope everyone had a great Holiday season and a happy New Year!!!

TetraHydroC https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=453962

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Olleybear
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#284 - 2013-01-02 23:08:13 UTC
CaiIyn Dove wrote:
Making exploration complex to be scheduled pvp club is just a misuse.

Must nip this in the butt before people start believing it.

The pvp at the 1/10 and 2/10 plexes was not scheduled. Your making the assumption that the only time anyone flew there was when the plex respawned. This is not the case.

Unless you just killed the boss / building in the last room of the plex, your not going to know what time the respawn will occur. Everyone must fly to the plex to see if whether or not it has respawned.

Needing to fly to the plex to see if it respawned is what encourages the pvp around them to begin with.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#285 - 2013-01-03 09:54:31 UTC
Pokings have occurred.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#286 - 2013-01-03 11:49:15 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Pokings have occurred.


Hopefully they will occur until satisfying response be given.

I mean I understand Eve is huge project with many many devs involved but there had to be that one guy who made a decision how hisec farming plexes problem should be solved. So first question I would like to ask to him is "Do you even play this game?" and second "Did you even ask anybody else about possible repercussions of your solution?".

Again, I understand huge software projects and sometimes little change here explodes in your face in most surprising place but moving static plexes to exploration system probably wasn't only about changing 1 stupid variable. So, when you were talking about it (because you did talk, right?) nobody said "Hey, I heard about those guys in lowsec exploding themselves at accel gates a lot. Do you think it will cut explosions for them if you make those gates not static anymore?" ?

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Turgesson
Gorillaz In The Mist
#287 - 2013-01-03 14:50:13 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Pokings have occurred.


Cool, I been poking soft targets in high sec for the month they've been gone. Do us a favor and tell them not to hurry I'm sure we'll all just come around and join FW if we want low sec resources to fight over.
Artimis kraw
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#288 - 2013-01-03 17:15:04 UTC
Laktos wrote:
Vincent R'lyeh wrote:
Robinton Jax wrote:


So who in MH is running in next CSM?


Dirty Protagonist for CSM!



No, Crafty Croc.


Has my vote.

Safe
Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
#289 - 2013-01-03 17:17:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent R'lyeh
Turgesson wrote:

join FW if we want low sec resources to fight over.



Annnd again with the missing of the entire point of this thread......

I have deliberately developed an air of cynicism that I originally intended to make me appear somewhat louche and caddish but actually comes across as irritable hostility combined with the unspoken threat of sudden violence.....
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#290 - 2013-01-03 19:43:46 UTC
Vincent R'lyeh wrote:
Turgesson wrote:

join FW if we want low sec resources to fight over.



Annnd again with the missing of the entire point of this thread......


We must be prepared to walk in a thousand circles if it will move us a single step forward.

(feels wise today)

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
Turgesson
Gorillaz In The Mist
#291 - 2013-01-04 01:14:40 UTC
Vincent R'lyeh wrote:
Turgesson wrote:

join FW if we want low sec resources to fight over.



Annnd again with the missing of the entire point of this thread......


There are 15 pages of points so I figured I'd throw in a joke to bump her along....unless I'm still missing the point? Please sum up these pages of points to point out which points are the important points.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#292 - 2013-01-04 02:32:43 UTC
How long have high-sec 2/10 complexes been working? Ever since some change to at least high-sec complexes years ago I've never seen a functional 2/10 complex in high-sec, or at least a single functional 2/10 rogue drone complex which is virtually ever 2/10 complex I've seen.
Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
DECOY
#293 - 2013-01-04 09:24:59 UTC
Just gotta say....this change actualy got me to comment after years in game. I had just started to get guys who spent 90 percent of there time doing PvE to check out the 2/10's.

The beauty was that they could take 10min and either make some isk(top of the PvE mind) or get a fight. Why I fell hard for them myself.

If I wanted FW I would take 10min to fly up there....Molden Heath had a flavor of its own till the change. Want it back.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#294 - 2013-01-04 23:07:26 UTC
Just in case you guys forgot about us...
waiting here...
for ages...

But of course now it's weekend :)

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Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
#295 - 2013-01-05 15:43:09 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Just in case you guys forgot about us...
waiting here...
for ages...

But of course now it's weekend :)


They're probably still drawing straws to see who gets to tell us it was an issue with the new npc AI that meant they had to be removed and they will never return....but they have somethin' MUCH better in the works for an upcoming release "soon" and it will be "awesome"!
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
You've got RED on you
#296 - 2013-01-05 18:29:09 UTC
We are still here...
We are still waiting...
We do not forgive...
We do not forget...

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Turgesson
Gorillaz In The Mist
#297 - 2013-01-07 00:35:50 UTC
Kane Rizzel wrote:
We are still here...
We are still waiting...
We do not forgive...
We do not forget...


We will ship boxes of dog poop from around the world to CCP headquarters on a weekly basis.
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#298 - 2013-01-07 02:23:50 UTC
Turgesson wrote:
Kane Rizzel wrote:
We are still here...
We are still waiting...
We do not forgive...
We do not forget...


We will ship boxes of dog poop from around the world to CCP headquarters on a weekly basis.


Actually, no, we will not. We're a bit more classy and capable of having a reasonable conversation and discussion about the topic then that. The best way to have people who may already have a low interest in revisiting the changes or working on a new solution to not take us seriously is to act like everything people accuse gamers to be.

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
Titus Veridius
Calamitous-Intent
#299 - 2013-01-07 03:28:40 UTC
Sugar Kyle wrote:
Turgesson wrote:
Kane Rizzel wrote:
We are still here...
We are still waiting...
We do not forgive...
We do not forget...


We will ship boxes of dog poop from around the world to CCP headquarters on a weekly basis.


Actually, no, we will not. We're a bit more classy and capable of having a reasonable conversation and discussion about the topic then that. The best way to have people who may already have a low interest in revisiting the changes or working on a new solution to not take us seriously is to act like everything people accuse gamers to be.


Actually, no, Sugar. I have a shortage of static 2/10s and a surplus of dog poop.

I was ignoring this debacle until this happened.

I saw Sylvous, a semi-notorious Dramiel pilot from Molden Heath flying a Tornado. The story is that Sylvous only flies a Dramiel. No one has seen him in something else since 1984, when he quit grooming himself. I saw him in a Tornado, and this conversation occurred:

[03:16:37] Titus Veridius > oMFG
[03:16:40] Titus Veridius > OH MY F******* GOD
[03:16:42] Titus Veridius > HOLY JESUS
[03:16:54] Titus Veridius > Sylvous is in a Tornado
[03:17:02] CarnegieSteel > wtf
[03:17:09] Sylvous > no 2/10 to pvp at
[03:17:09] CarnegieSteel > why are you lying to us
[03:17:14] Sylvous > what can a dram do?

Something must be done. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the static 2/10s. They were an entire net positive to everything in Eve. Nothing needs to be re-examined. Nothing needs to be tweaked. It was a change that made no sense and had no purpose and a Team Lead or Dept Head should have caught this...and never let it get patched.

That being said, the rest of Retribution was pretty awesome and smooth. Good Work.
Olleybear
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#300 - 2013-01-07 04:23:21 UTC
Titus Veridius wrote:
I saw Sylvous, a semi-notorious Dramiel pilot from Molden Heath...
...I saw him in a Tornado..

Lies!

Sylvous cant fly anything but a dramiel. Pics or it didnt happen.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.