Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Killing Sabres is easy. I'd be more annoyed at the 2xMASB Hawks if I were you. I know I am.



What did you expect, that a plex with a first gate spawn time of 1.5 hours would be readily available all the time?

That spawn time is also what made the lowsec plexes even more into a PvP spot. You had to wait there, or in system, and you had to deny someone else the entrance if you did not want to be beat to the goods. You wanted the loot? Be ready to fight for it and hold that turf until you could get the keys (that or go get spare keys. How? I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader).

Otherwise: "No Gist For You".



I thought we were talking about lowsec 2/10s to start with. That's what the thread is about. Heck, I can't even get into highsec aside of passing by quick (and neither can half the people in the thread). I'm -9.8. Nearly everyone who posted has stated that he/she fully supports their removal in highsec. But leave lowsec alone. Leave our culture alone. Save the Thunderdomes!



Again, we don't care for the "high-sec veteran farms". We want them gone just as much as you do. Better yet, we want them simply relocated to lowsec. With twice the lowsec plexes, we'd have a lot of grounds to roam and shoot each other (and you, should you show up - You're welcome).

I don't know how often you've been to FW systems, but calling them much better places for 1v1 PvP is pretty much false. FW is a far more gang-oriented affair, and most people in this thread are first and foremost dirty, smug, evil, podkillin' solo space pirates (although nearly all of us do dabble in gangs, obviously) that play for the hunt and the thrill of the kill. Camping a plex? That's not what we do, simply because the ISK is a means, not an end, and our ships of choice don't require a lot of means to get in the first place. If you still doubt this, I am sitting on a stockpile of Gist modules which has quadrupled (and more) in price. If I were an ISK farmer, I'd be elated to sell it for huge ISK before moving on to some other farmable resource in EVE.

I don't care.

I am not selling one item of it.

I'm keeping the modules so I can use them for my combat ships. Hopefully, when the plexes get reinstated, prices will drop, and my losses won't be as spectacular, but otherwise, they're mine and born to fight.

Also, I don't know who you think are the people here that lie about PvP. I recognize most of the names here. I shot at a good half of them, got shot at by yet even more and most of those that don't fall into either of those two categories, I know by name or reputation.

Heck, if a thread can get me and Dilium to agree on anything at all, that means CCP messed up.

I respectfully suggest you re-read the thread, and then try posting again after you understand what's going on here, as you're missing the point by miles.

On a semi-related note:
As for Arenas, we don't want arenas. We want reasons to fight in lowsec, and ISK sources are a good reason to fight in lowsec. The income is small and individual, which leads to people coming alone or in small groups. Powerhouse groups, which we have no interest in, and don't care about, overlook small sources of income. This leaves us free to roam, make ISK and kill each other for stealing each other's ISK. That's great gameplay mechanics. Arenas are boring, and lack the sandbox feel. I rarely agree to arranged fights because I like to hunt. Screw arenas.

Watering holes in lowsec are the definition of a sandbox.

This is (or was) and example of the "emergent gameplay" CCP likes to mention so much, and it should be returned so we can all enjoy it once again.

Bump

Still trying to think of any time I actually went inside that Heild 2/10.

Gusandall has become a Ghost Town... The Specials on infinite repeat :(

Man, Heild is like a Death Valley. Lost soul every few hours peering in and running away, a couple of ghosts chained into their quarters and not able to undock and some tumbleweeds every while in a time.

During nights you can hear explosions approx 7 AU from the sun but nothing is there. Nothing... Not anymore...

I'm glad someone pointed me here. Please for the love of Pete consider fixing any spawning problems and return these in greater abundance to non-FW low sec and NPC null some day. You removed a fun thing to do in low sec because of a problem with high sec bots and that should never happen.

As an null pvp'er, lowsec pirate and hisec indrustialist id say wtf is a FW area.. Yea bit of humour there.. But seriously wth i know about FW.. And why should i know something about FW when i dont do FW stuff..

Just saying... +1 occured...

Hopefully someone who will focus on all of low sec and be the groups voice. There are to many different groups for there to be only one narrow agenda.

Dirty Protagonist for CSM!

I love you gents but let us not derail too far from this topic and goal?

Perhaps we need a MH/low sec CSM candidate selection discussion amongst ourselves in game or on these or other forums but not this thread.

:)

Except FW is only in certain regions. A lot of low-sec is not FW space.

We're trying to keep the non-FW areas of low-sec alive. CCP's change is killing them further.