EVE General Discussion

Perhaps next time they finally go with some existing graphics engine and focus on the content where the focus should be,.

They're doing a little, (a lot actually), more than repainting 10 hulls. The models themselves are being completely re-meshed for compatibility with DirectX11 and Tessellation, while all the V3 textures have been updated to accomodate the same. Maybe it won't be ready very soon, but it's a lot of work.

One flaw in a model can result in an absolute mess when Tessellation is applied to it. Try to remember that Tesselation computes new polygons and edges off the model and texture, so it is heavily reliant on a good model and texture to render properly.

Not that I have any idea how much has actually been done on this. I think they are replacing some models entirely because they either can't be fixed, or are just so unappealing as to make replacing a better option given they have to be remodeled anyway.

Crimewatch 2.0, Wars, Faction Warfare, Bounties are all major recodes too. This isn't something that was done with a simple change to a types file. Granted, I understand CCP has a lot of people working for them, but this is a lot of work, and integrating it into EVE in a relatively seamless fashion is probably a lot more.

Then there are the new ships, which although quite nice to see, are probably nt a huge time requirement like some of that other stuff, and all the rebalancing, which really does boil down to something akin to a change in a types file, but getting it right is another issue, and something that requires more time. ..and fixes, and tweaks, and all the other stuff. It's not like CCP is moving tremendously slowly in there progression through these recent expansions; they are actually rounding things out rather quickly imo. I've seen games that have taken twice as long to do less than half as much.

It is true that a lot of this may be considered falling behind in the big race, but this sort of attention to detail and focus on improving all aspects of the game is bringing EVE up to spec for years to come. Graphically speaking, EVE will be in a far better position for this, with the ability to support tessellation meaning that the game models will improve dynamically when it is introduced. ..and the capability for more amazing environments that comes with it is nothing to scoff at.

You won't see it yet, but when you do you'll probably feel your jaw hit the floor some 30 seconds later. Exaggeration maybe, but it is going to be something to experience that sort of detail in a game environment. The Nvidia Tessellation demo for EVE was just a demo; imagine all of EVE like that.

Either way, and regardless of all that, they are succeeding in doing quite a lot in a short time. It's commendable. In the past, yes, they have left features unfinished in a race to continuously provide new content and increase the scope of EVE to encompass more alternative paths in gameplay.

Now they're taking their experience of those features and player feedback to try to make them better and increase player use of them. A bit of a hurdle here and there, but ultimately it seems to be paying off.

Hmm.. also, making a game that allows player numbers within the scope of EVE is't hard in and of itself , but making it work is considerably more challenging I think. It requires some serious hardware, (which most game designers won't consider as an option as a direct result of cost and administration requirements), and I imagine a great deal of stability and optimization of code.

Look at how much was spent on SWtOR, (~150 million over 5 years of development), and what they ended up with. I quite often couldn't play without bouncing, streaking, and jolting around the map. Got stuck regulkarly, lagged out often, and often enough, didn't have powers take effect or weapons fire. That was with a population of some 230ish players in the local area on a given planet.

That wasn't because my computer couldn't handle it either.

Crysis launched with a potential to be used as a Stress testing benchmark for GPU and CPU on even High end systems. Not an MMO, but you know.

Anyway, I'd say we're doing well. EVE is something else.

That is all what this topic is all about.
Team Absent was that little team,but they decided to make it to Team Fiasco

Sorry to say ,but this is my main and only char
you fail

So its end of discussing ,if you a clearly wrong with a statement
but you mentioned Eula ,so show me where i was wrong or break the eula

Right now, the issue is that we seem to be clamoring for something unknown. The "I want avatars so bad just give me anything with avatars" and the "avatars are the only hope for eve look at the competition", are dangerous and wrong, as it would just make CCP believe they can just serve up another plate of no gameplay and be done with it. Eve is an anomaly, it is still live and kicking due to the fact that it has not fallen into the me-too MMO models of all those Korean games. We don't need anymore laughably bad ideas from the player base. What we need now is tangible words on gameplay concepts from the devs, they've stated that the prototyping is complete and I hope we are nearing the time when us non-CSM the general public can see what you got, hopefully by fanfest.

By tangible I mean:

Doing activity A players can acquire items B which can be sold on the market and will be used in the bill of materials of these modules.
Players conduct combat and harvest by using these suit modules D, performance is based on skill sets E

If the devs tell us what their vision is, it is very likely that there will be overwhelming support. This is the kind of stuff that will get most of us excited, as opposed to the meaningless 2005 footage where there were a bunch of dudes emoting each other in a room and durhurrr exotic dancers or new pants and tattoos.

I use hanger view because it loads faster, but sure I do spin ships once in a while. The CQ is rather like bloatware of HTC phones, I'd rom it out if I could.
In that sense all avatar loadings should be optional, but gameplay ramifications are mandatory. It should be like WHs and PI, you don't have to participate in those activities but that is where your stuff comes from, essentially you either get it yourself or you buy it from the market. So don't pull another Zulu and tell me how I should be more "immersed", what he did was unforgivable.

Dude your pdf is just lol no.

Not really.