EVE General Discussion

Hi there, glad to see more people getting into small-gang PvP!

I'm not my group's FC, but we find some success hunting around in the Placid area. The basic thing we've found to do is to take a single pilot through any given gate (usually in frigates, while we're down here) and go poking around the various sites in FW space. You dont always find something. EVE is very much a game of patience.

Sometimes you find a guy who is in a gunless frigate doing defensive plexing. Sometimes the guy doing the plexing actually wants a fight, but gets surprised when two or three buddies jump into the system and engage him too. Sometimes, though, he calls for help and thats where the real fun begins. ;)

No one with low SP is going to get into a 4 man gang and line up all nice for you and your guys to shoot them. Pvp in this game is 50% about taking a ****** situation and making adjustments to either escape, kill everyone or take as many with you as you can.

The other 50% is not getting into that situation or setting yourself and your gang up for success.

You asked for guaranteed action without a lot of searching around or people who won't fight you which is why I suggested M-O or HED-GP.

Excuse me sir but I have done quite a bit of small gang in Syndicate (5-25 dudes) try to keep an open mind when asking for internet spaceship advice. Real small gang is almost as fabled as the 'goodfight' sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. A lot of good suggestions here but if you automatically disqualify advice because of corp tags you only limit yourself.

5 to 25? anything higher than 6 is basically blob. I do not want my friends to become bad PvPers, thats all.

Now I asked in the first post that I do not want to get outnumbered 30 to 3, what do you think two noobs in t1 fail-fit frigates and one guy are going to do vs a 30+ man fleet when they jump into HED-GP?

I only agree with the second part.

The more pilots that a fleet gathers, the less player skill is needed for the pilots in the fleet.

30 is only small gang for bloblords who have had their minds corrupted by bad pvp :)

This doesn't actually hold true in a lot of cases. It DOES require a different skill set as a player, though. People who cut their teeth in small gang are, a lot of the time, AWFUL in fleets, because they tend to go after glory more often than success, and are more prone to acting on their own rather than following directions.

This is a game where the big fights involve hundreds of pilots on both sides. 30 people is still a relatively small gang, and just has the advantage of flexibility.

What do I mean by flexibility?

Quite simply, its the ability to change your fleet around to find fights. Ganks happen, but most of the good fights happen when someone takes a look at your fleet and goes "We can take that. Form up!" This is why most FW space gangs that are just roaming around don't have ECM or logi with them, because the presence of those ship types is more likely than not going to keep people from believing they can take you. I say this as a guy in a corp that is VERY heavy into ECM and can field entire fleets of Falcons if we feel like it. We rarely actually take them out.

A 30 man fleet has the potential to be able to split itself off into 2x 15 man gangs, or 3x10 man gangs. Or hell, 6x5 man gangs. A larger fleet, conversely, has trouble doing that because there aren't usually enough experience FC's around to do the work of splitting up, and you need more highly skilled FC's the more cats you have to herd.

They really are different categories of gameplay. Both are valid. They both achieve different things.

Talk to a newer player friendly, active wormhole corp? I'm sure they'd be willing to bring 3 guys in who are interested in small gang pvp. wspace is where its at.

As stated above, head over to populated faction warfare space. Fly something cheap and fast. You will find plenty of folks more than willing to fight you. Consider, for example, the area around Kamela. If there are a few of you, you can probably find a fight within even a few short minutes, but you will have to be quick as they ALWAYS have a blob incoming.

Come to Heild, ask for a fight and we will comply. 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 - all depends how many rebels are online and around.
Or just hang out at angel plex - we will come to play.

If not rebelz, there will be somebody else. Quite a good traffic through Heild recently, it's almost scary to undock my shinies.

Look at this elite pvp warrior posting above his weight. You heard it here folks. Fleet combat is dead. All those videos you watched that made you try this game are BS.