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ACHILLES01
Emberia Manufacturing Inc.
#441 - 2012-11-11 01:20:44 UTC
"I find that the comment toward DUST514 being not a sell off sort of offencive towards everyone that, actually,
appreciates their work. Also I find these ideas as nothing other than positive contributions which may affect
DUST and EVE in a good way!!

Achilles
You will wander the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb, and all the dead will know: This is the fool who thought he killed Achilles
ACHILLES01
Emberia Manufacturing Inc.
#442 - 2012-11-11 01:22:47 UTC
"I find that the comment toward DUST514 being not a sell off sort of offencive towards everyone that,
actually, appreciates their work. Also I find these ideas as nothing other than positive contributions
which may affect DUST and EVE in a good way!!

Achilles,,
You will wander the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb, and all the dead will know: This is the fool who thought he killed Achilles
Keran Set
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#443 - 2012-11-11 01:44:26 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
. The inspiration for this comes from a lot of different places, back to the original Aliens films, Event Horizon, the cleanup of Chernobyl, high-altitude mountaineering, games such as Space Hulk, Minecraft and Moonbase Alpha, to name just a few.

I'll be back to comment further once I've changed my underwear.




Definitely this
Seriously, i love it
Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#444 - 2012-11-11 04:19:25 UTC
I image scouting through wrecks in these new WiS style ruins to be like the Deadspace games. At least that's how I hope it will be. I can't wait.
Belanar Colt
Divinus Gloria Intra
#445 - 2012-11-11 04:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Belanar Colt
I think the placement of drones, controlled at the "Drone Station" par say, would be something amazing to have implemented! Having that little conduit beside your bed... yeah something like that , just only in a ship. With drone augments to place on for that duration of time? WOOH that would only be justifed as nothing short of spectacular. I want to occupy drones. Don't kill my dream now P.

- Belanar Colt ~ Chase Dreamz
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#446 - 2012-11-11 12:42:41 UTC
Belanar Colt wrote:
What?

Hi I was curious to find out, when is that button like ever going to be green? You know... that one, the "Station Door Button".
Also, how does the public find this idea?

- To walk around ships while a Captain is on board! Such as, a Capital ship! Also to utilize the cargo bay and contracts to hand the CPT while in his or her cargo hold?
- To utilize Contracting to another era, having Contract Escort along side Contract Courier, to have Contract Security to pickup and eliminate who ever is on the other side of that paper. If need be, as the opportunity may present itself, pick up the bounty isk if that case presents itself ontop.
- To have a walk-about on a ship, giving these men and women, our beloved peers the opportunity to present stowaway as it is not a crime, but a role-playing measure for the CPT himself or if so the woman herself the selection of options to take in such a situation if ever one arises. To have pods. Chaffs for those pods. Pretty little tables to sit at. Conference rooms to have a number of optional animations to select at, when chosen words are spoken. There are a value of selections, rich numbers in that I have no doubt are more compitent in the success of accomplishing ideas such at those above, and hopefully more below. Think about it!


Don't forget me!

- Belanar Colt ~ Chase Dreamz



There were a lot of threads about what me want ,when the door actually opens.
But ccp was forced to come up with gameplay outside of the station first.

It is kind of funny ,we have this useless door ,but the actual gameplay CCP thinks about is not in a station.
The gameplay they eventually come up with must be awesome or it will be the next WIS disappointment.

I would love something more in the line of their vision of EvE video and that would mean opening that door and have gameplay

R.S.I2014

Ghazu
#447 - 2012-11-11 12:46:21 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Belanar Colt wrote:
What?

Hi I was curious to find out, when is that button like ever going to be green? You know... that one, the "Station Door Button".
Also, how does the public find this idea?

- To walk around ships while a Captain is on board! Such as, a Capital ship! Also to utilize the cargo bay and contracts to hand the CPT while in his or her cargo hold?
- To utilize Contracting to another era, having Contract Escort along side Contract Courier, to have Contract Security to pickup and eliminate who ever is on the other side of that paper. If need be, as the opportunity may present itself, pick up the bounty isk if that case presents itself ontop.
- To have a walk-about on a ship, giving these men and women, our beloved peers the opportunity to present stowaway as it is not a crime, but a role-playing measure for the CPT himself or if so the woman herself the selection of options to take in such a situation if ever one arises. To have pods. Chaffs for those pods. Pretty little tables to sit at. Conference rooms to have a number of optional animations to select at, when chosen words are spoken. There are a value of selections, rich numbers in that I have no doubt are more compitent in the success of accomplishing ideas such at those above, and hopefully more below. Think about it!


Don't forget me!

- Belanar Colt ~ Chase Dreamz



There were a lot of threads about what me want ,when the door actually opens.
But ccp was forced to come up with gameplay outside of the station first.

It is kind of funny ,we have this useless door ,but the actual gameplay CCP thinks about is not in a station.
The gameplay they eventually come up with must be awesome or it will be the next WIS disappointment.

I would love something more in the line of their vision of EvE video and that would mean opening that door and have gameplay


what if i open the door and all i see is a bunch of dudes emoting each other?

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#448 - 2012-11-11 13:09:21 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Belanar Colt wrote:
What?

Hi I was curious to find out, when is that button like ever going to be green? You know... that one, the "Station Door Button".
Also, how does the public find this idea?

- To walk around ships while a Captain is on board! Such as, a Capital ship! Also to utilize the cargo bay and contracts to hand the CPT while in his or her cargo hold?
- To utilize Contracting to another era, having Contract Escort along side Contract Courier, to have Contract Security to pickup and eliminate who ever is on the other side of that paper. If need be, as the opportunity may present itself, pick up the bounty isk if that case presents itself ontop.
- To have a walk-about on a ship, giving these men and women, our beloved peers the opportunity to present stowaway as it is not a crime, but a role-playing measure for the CPT himself or if so the woman herself the selection of options to take in such a situation if ever one arises. To have pods. Chaffs for those pods. Pretty little tables to sit at. Conference rooms to have a number of optional animations to select at, when chosen words are spoken. There are a value of selections, rich numbers in that I have no doubt are more compitent in the success of accomplishing ideas such at those above, and hopefully more below. Think about it!


Don't forget me!

- Belanar Colt ~ Chase Dreamz



There were a lot of threads about what me want ,when the door actually opens.
But ccp was forced to come up with gameplay outside of the station first.

It is kind of funny ,we have this useless door ,but the actual gameplay CCP thinks about is not in a station.
The gameplay they eventually come up with must be awesome or it will be the next WIS disappointment.

I would love something more in the line of their vision of EvE video and that would mean opening that door and have gameplay


what if i open the door and all i see is a bunch of dudes emoting each other?


what if i open the door and i see actual gameplay

R.S.I2014

Ghazu
#449 - 2012-11-11 13:38:08 UTC
guess we will find out after fanfest.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#450 - 2012-11-11 16:14:08 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
guess we will find out after fanfest.




i guess ,but i think you are more optimistic about WIS then me this time ,Ghazu

R.S.I2014

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#451 - 2012-11-11 19:19:05 UTC
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
I image scouting through wrecks in these new WiS style ruins to be like the Deadspace games. At least that's how I hope it will be. I can't wait.


Love the DeadSpace games. Isaac is a bad ass. Yea, if they had to model the gameplay for the station exploration on any one game, I would choose DeadSpace.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#452 - 2012-11-19 09:57:18 UTC
It's a shame this thread doesn't get more attention.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#453 - 2012-11-19 12:01:10 UTC
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
It's a shame this thread doesn't get more attention.


You have to go to Fanfest to get the attention you want

R.S.I2014

Asura Cascade
Perkone
Caldari State
#454 - 2012-11-19 12:13:13 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
. The inspiration for this comes from a lot of different places, back to the original Aliens films, Event Horizon, the cleanup of Chernobyl, high-altitude mountaineering, games such as Space Hulk, Minecraft and Moonbase Alpha, to name just a few.

I'll be back to comment further once I've changed my underwear.


Hell yes.
Besbin
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#455 - 2012-11-19 17:04:44 UTC
I, for one, truelly hope that the vision that is WiS will come to pass. I am undoubtedly not the only one who to some degree play Eve also for the potential that it holds.

LOVE the concept, HATE the downprioritization (or rather the fact that with this message it will now be 2-2½ years before we see anything).

I acknowledge the ressource bottleneck, but hope you will continue to run a slow burn.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#456 - 2012-11-19 17:29:20 UTC
Quote:
what if i open the door and all i see is a bunch of dudes emoting each other?


You are boring like this door button.
Johnny Bloomington
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#457 - 2012-11-19 19:19:20 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Quote:
what if i open the door and all i see is a bunch of dudes emoting each other?


You are boring like this door button.


You open the door and see CCP watching TV in there breakroom.

CCP wish list: show damage on ships and open that door!

Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#458 - 2012-11-19 20:02:38 UTC
I have a sudden urge to play Dead Space.

Sorry, off topic.

Bring Saede Riordan back!! Never Forget! _"__Operation Godzilla Smacks Zeus"  ~__Graygor _

Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#459 - 2012-11-19 23:04:43 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
There were a lot of threads about what me want ,when the door actually opens.
But ccp was forced to come up with gameplay outside of the station first.

It is kind of funny ,we have this useless door ,but the actual gameplay CCP thinks about is not in a station.
The gameplay they eventually come up with must be awesome or it will be the next WIS disappointment.

I would love something more in the line of their vision of EvE video and that would mean opening that door and have gameplay


Well, they could TOTALLY change the way the game feels, if they wanted to.

For example, consider how you pick up missions now. You dock with station, double-click portrait, click Accept. And you're good to undock. Fun factor? Immersion? Nonexistent. Considering the pool from which missions are chosen are tiny, the missions are all stupendously generic, and PvE combat is dull to the point of extinction.

But, what if, when you docked, you ended up not in the CQ, but a docking area. With other players running around. And you had to jog to the NPC, and talk to him. And NPC would actually talk back. And based on your dialogue choices, your mission would actually change. When you changed fittings on your ship, you could see mechanical hands in station fitting in the new turrets, or loading drones. Immersion would go through the roof. Add the ability to talk and interact with other people, fun and games and maybe even a little 3rd person shooting (if at war), and suddenly the game feels and plays TOTALLY different from before.

Now, some bitter vets will immediately cry that this takes too long. The station has to load, you have to run to and from the NPC, you have to actually talk to the NPC, etc. And it's all true. But en route to the NPC, all kinds of fun stuff could happen. If your sec status is low, you might be offered a black market mission, or be ambushed by bounty hunters or whatever. Stations wouldn't just be a place to ship spin anymore. And if you're at war, they wouldn't be a safe haven - the enemy could kick down your door and gun you down like a dog. See? Suddenly it's a whole another ball game.

Imagine how the game would be then. Like Mass Effect on steroids, in MMO setting. Huge. People would flock to that like you wouldn't believe. At least that's what I'm expecting. Space ships aren't for everyone, for many folks avatars are very important. I believe CCP said so themselves, speaking about the Asian market for EVE.

But, this requires time, resources, manpower, and above all desire to take that risk. And I just don't feel CCP is ready. They've got themselves in a quiet little rut, and have been sitting there for 9 years and counting. The game may be growing (or shrinking, depending who you ask) a little, but it's nowhere near where it could be. EVE's 40k concurrent users is a joke, when GW2 had 400k concurrent users in early access, and more than that at launch. When Pandaria, as dumbed down as it is, had over a million concurrent users. It could be better. A lot better. Graphically EVE is superb. Lore-wise it is incredibly strong, but they make ****-poor use of it (audio, cutscenes, dialogue, etc?). What's lacking is gameplay, plain and simple.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#460 - 2012-11-20 09:31:51 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
stuff


The funny thing is ,even with the only FIS direction CCP has taken ,they will never do enough or right in the eyes of the ones crying for only FIS recourses.
I checked Duality and the changes they made in how the game will feel and look are great,but the moment the expansion goes live ,a lot of those whiners will be showing their face again ,to cry a little bit more.
After 4 December ,the give me back my old EvE threads will fill up the forums.

R.S.I2014