EVE General Discussion

I agree witth the ending point on your post. I guess I would be placed in the pool with the WiS folks, since my time in EVE and almost immeadiately in I could see the vast world that EVE online potentially provided. Their core foundation of FiS and EVE in general are quite intuitive. It's depth provides almost something new to learn everytime you play.

Little tweaks and fine tunning can grant players a wide variety of play types and encounters. The work I have seen them do since being a player has also shown me their dedication to maintaining a very, very authentic feel to their game. Something no other game really encompasses as a whole quite possibly.

Now here is my thing, when the announcement of WiS and Dust 514 really started picking up that year or so ago I was also one that felt that Dust 514 would not have the success it could potentially have. Without WiS being something that was already a stable gameplay within EVE beforehand.

Dust is a great idea and as a Playstation 3 owner I'll more than likely download and give it ago when it is finally complete. The beta was okay when I tried it a while ago, but honestly there wasn't much that really grabbed me about the experience back then. I do feel that if those resources that were focused on Dust were actually put towards WiS that the players would've recieved a much fuller and enjoyable experience while CCP itself would've provided a much more in depth and meaningful Avatar gameplay.

They had to shift focus from EVE (somewhat) to get an understanding of the PS3 tech and furthermore to build their game. When I feel if they had decided to focus instead on EVE WiS and EVE FiS in general that they would've covered alot more ground in both areas. I'm not saying that their time was wasted, not at all. But when I think of what could've and maybe "should've" been I can't help but think there were some misteps in the decisions they made concerning WiS, FiS and their final choice of moving forward with Dust 514.

Not to nitpick, but that video shown at FanFest isn't a gameplay video. It's a fly-through of the small portion of the map. There's no avatar, animations, combat, travel, etc., etc., shown there. Meaning no actual gameplay. To date, as far as I know, there's been zero gameplay footage of WoS. Considering how many years it's been in development, that is not very encouraging is all I'm saying.



It looks fairly good, yes. Though honestly I got a huge Mafia II flashback from it, and that game came out more than 2 years ago. Like I said, hard to judge anything when all that's shown is a dark street with static geometry.

There may still be a lot of game-play concerns left, but there are only a few I actually care about, and as these issues get fewer and fewer people are going to want WiS more and more. I, for one, just want them to finish the T1 balancing and then fix POSes and I'm happy, dont need any more changes as far as I'm concerned. And I would happily see some WiS before either of those things.

The last three expansions (including the one coming out now) have been fantastic, at tweaking what we already have, but there will always be stuff that needs fixing or iterating on. They shouldn't be spending all their resources on them. We really do need something new, and we don't need any new FiS stuff, that part of the game is fantastic as it is.

Truth hurts.

Except they aren't prototyping anymore. Team Avatar was moved to the UI project. So no development is being done at all.

at least CCP does what it does best.

a lot of promise ,but don,t deliver

As it turns out ,Ambulation is nothing more then a marketing trick.

i love this game,but this is nothing more then a tool to keep people to this game

We not here bc we only want WIS ,it is always good to have FIS

First we had to learn a bunch of learning skill, then you get dust514 out only on ps3, then you talk about extra vehicular activity and you say you can't do it right now.

so in the end we are still waiting to play dust514 on pc and will probably wait for 10 years or more, so the extra vehicular activity cant be made under 50 or 80 years, most of us will be dead before it happen.

Is it only me who tink eve is not evolving at all? I dont see a lot of different things since i started playin, some new ship and modules but nothing awesome, only minor change.

After 6 years of playin the same game over and over i'm ready for change, do it now before all of us get bored to death and choose another game.

If another company get a game like eve out i would probably change if it's better because i lost faith in the eve team for change, i can't see anything more in the future, only minor change.

my 2¢

The other game is on its way. Four years for me, most of that time with three accounts. There's no doubt CCP need to branch our characters out into other areas of the EVE universe to stay relevant and I'm sure Dust and WiS are only part of the story.
I'm delighted they now have a good plan for WiS after they've fixed the core code in the flagship EVE.

Personally, I'd be happy to waste time building orbital infrastructure, asteroid bases etc. for people to set up shop in.

And once again, that portion of EVE's community that bothers with these forums displays its general lack of enthusiasm for new ideas, a pessimistic fatal streak, a total lack of vision, a cynical conservative bent and a total lack of any understanding about how to go about running a games studio which presently has only one profitable title to its name.

Business as usual then. I really don't know why I bother coming here. This exact same thing happened with Incarna - they had what I personally thought was a great idea to add whole new player-driven sections of the economy to the game, and a noisy faction of luddites in the community pissed all over it because it didn't fit their narrow vision of what EVE should be. I'm still angry about that.

And now people have the audacity to complain that we don't have proper WiS or any WoD game footage or whatever, when it's OUR. ZARKING. FAULT. Us! the Community! We're the ones who went on a noisy rampage over those very same things when they were first proposed, forcing CCP to back off and focus on the flying and spaceships instead of moving the game in that direction and now some of us are griping about not having them?

GFDI if you wanted them that badly, you should have spoken up and encouraged CCP to keep making them when they were first proposed, rather than sit back and let the uninspired armchair games designers decide that they wanted to fly the ship for us.

/rant