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Legit Question: Why do you post with an alt?

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#41 - 2012-11-01 14:44:33 UTC
Natasha Liao wrote:
We probably need you to define whatever your narrow definition of *Main* and *Alt* are. Is it highest SP 'Toon? My highest SP ATM gets logged in about 10 min max to check some orders and clicky-clicky some Farmville. Haven't even un-docked him for weeks. Oldest 'Toon? My oldest 'Toon got tossed on the Bio heap back in the beginning of '08. He was from back in the old days when your profession assigned your initial SP's. Noob + Zero Knowledge == Biomass yourself Noaw Character. Big smile

Are we going with 'Most Fun to Play'? Then this one. Less than 1mil SP's, *really* miss having lots of lvl4 and 5 skills ( I feel your pain Shiroh ) and yet this is some of the most fun I've had in Eve for years. I wish RL wasn't cutting into the time I can sit and play Eve ATM. I heard frigs calling to be blown up ( most likely mine... ) and I need to be in them. P



This is a legitimate question.

I'd say that if you had all your alts in one place, and you were told you can only be one of them forever and never have any more alts, the one you pick is your main.

You could say "It's the one you spend the most time on" however if I'm a spy I'm going to spend most the time on my spy alt rather than my "main".

Therefore I'd use the above test.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#42 - 2012-11-01 14:48:05 UTC
Well simple reason really: Griefer wardecks

Highsec is full of these wannabe pvp gods that go arround griefing easy targets. I have seen more then enough promising indy corps destroyed by those before they get started... Personally i have always wondered how shooting fish in barrel makes you great hunter.

Anyways, many serious industrials rather keep their indu stuff isolated so its harder to locate them.

Sometimes people just hol sensitive position in alliance or corp and want to protect that.

And letss face it 99,9 % of eves player base newer even reads these forums...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Reticle
Sight Picture
#43 - 2012-11-01 15:14:19 UTC
Dumb question.

Of course it's to evade repercussions. Only a complete moron kicks someone in the nuts and then stands around waiting to get dogpiled by the victim's friends. Unless of course you're baiting someone. That's different. Why would anyone want to multiply their dangers by introducing unknown factors into their gameplay? That's just stupid.

I have a question for you: do you use out of corp scout alts? Why? Same reason of course. You want to fool your enemies. You don't want them to know who you are until the last possible moment before you destroy them.

Subterfuge and deception are part of EVE.

This is posted on my "main." LOL. There are no such things as mains.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#44 - 2012-11-01 15:31:37 UTC
Reticle wrote:
Dumb question.

I have a question for you: do you use out of corp scout alts? Why? Same reason of course. You want to fool your enemies. You don't want them to know who you are until the last possible moment before you destroy them.



No, I scout on my main.

Because the tactic you have mentioned is so predictable, anyone seeing a "neutral" in system in an NPC corp is going to be suspicious. Especially as that person will be all the way in null without any friends or help etc. So if you see someone hanging around you should be taking note of it anyway.

Spying is different, because it's hard not to get caught if I'm just like "hai guise, can i join ur corp?"


Personally I think that the argument of "of course they want to avoid retribution for being an ass" is a poor one. How about don't be an ass in the first place? Or at least, don't be an ass to anyone who can ruin your day?

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-11-01 15:37:30 UTC
This is my main... I play Eve with my alt.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
slam34
Transtar Services
#46 - 2012-11-01 15:37:54 UTC
I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course.

High sec: That's the tutorial. Null Sec is the actual game. Wormholes? Even CCP isn't sure.
Arec Bardwin
#47 - 2012-11-01 15:39:46 UTC
Because I'm a lily-livered, custard-colored gutless little carebear.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#48 - 2012-11-01 15:41:24 UTC
slam34 wrote:
I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course.



Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here?

Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions.

Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
slam34
Transtar Services
#49 - 2012-11-01 15:46:04 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
slam34 wrote:
I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course.



Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here?

Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions.

Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it.


So you are agreeing with me then? Good.

High sec: That's the tutorial. Null Sec is the actual game. Wormholes? Even CCP isn't sure.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#50 - 2012-11-01 15:48:35 UTC
slam34 wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
slam34 wrote:
I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course.



Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here?

Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions.

Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it.


So you are agreeing with me then? Good.



No?

I don't get an ego boost from posting on the forums, funnily enough I like discussing things with people and coming to recognise people who post with their own opinions too. You know, to build a community? Even the people I don't like but post with their main characters I respect a lot more then any posting alt.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
slam34
Transtar Services
#51 - 2012-11-01 15:53:08 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
slam34 wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
slam34 wrote:
I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course.



Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here?

Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions.

Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it.


So you are agreeing with me then? Good.



No?

I don't get an ego boost from posting on the forums, funnily enough I like discussing things with people and coming to recognise people who post with their own opinions too. You know, to build a community? Even the people I don't like but post with their main characters I respect a lot more then any posting alt.


But you are proving my point. It is all about your self importance and the percieved worth of your personal opinion. Which is not necesarily a bad thing. Just strange to deny.

High sec: That's the tutorial. Null Sec is the actual game. Wormholes? Even CCP isn't sure.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#52 - 2012-11-01 15:59:04 UTC
No alt here, just have to make sure I'm not *that* drunk when posting..... OopsWhat?Roll

Some people can go from 0 to 9000 Fahrenheit, just like that. Ugh So at times I can understand the usage of alts, though I'm not for it. Too easy to be an ashat with no consequences.

Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#53 - 2012-11-01 16:01:52 UTC
slam34 wrote:

But you are proving my point. It is all about your self importance and the percieved worth of your personal opinion. Which is not necesarily a bad thing. Just strange to deny.


Simply being fine with being recognised as your own personal self with your own opinions and accepting the consequences of publicly stating those opinions I don't feel is egotistical, in fact I think it's essential to being a person at all.

I'm not hiding behind an alt personally because I don't feel I have to; my question is why do you think you'll be persecuted for your opinions if you don't post under an alt?

Maybe it's because your opinions are formed on flawed logic, and only you can't see it? Or maybe you don't believe in what you're saying enough to be associated with it anyway and damn the consequences?

Or maybe you're part of an alliance that bans you from posting, in which case why are you a part of it if it bans you from doing what you want?

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#54 - 2012-11-01 16:16:04 UTC
People who say

Grow a pair and post on your main, rawr!

are only saying that so that -

1) they can use "you're just an alt" as an excuse to dismiss the argument

2) they can goad the "alt poster" to reveal their identity and then derail the argument by insulting killboards, reputation, employment history, etc etc

3) they can "retaliate" against the person in game with harassment compaigns, bumping, awoxing, etc etc.

I, personally, give zero fucks and a peanut about the above three points and always post on my current main.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#55 - 2012-11-01 16:21:15 UTC
I am the real thing. The forum is the real game.

Although I do have some alts to play the forum mini game that takes place in space or something.

Mr Epeen Cool
slam34
Transtar Services
#56 - 2012-11-01 16:21:20 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
slam34 wrote:

But you are proving my point. It is all about your self importance and the percieved worth of your personal opinion. Which is not necesarily a bad thing. Just strange to deny.


Simply being fine with being recognised as your own personal self with your own opinions and accepting the consequences of publicly stating those opinions I don't feel is egotistical, in fact I think it's essential to being a person at all.

I'm not hiding behind an alt personally because I don't feel I have to; my question is why do you think you'll be persecuted for your opinions if you don't post under an alt?

Maybe it's because your opinions are formed on flawed logic, and only you can't see it? Or maybe you don't believe in what you're saying enough to be associated with it anyway and damn the consequences?

Or maybe you're part of an alliance that bans you from posting, in which case why are you a part of it if it bans you from doing what you want?


You have certainly made a lot of unfounded assumptions about me. You also have confused having an ego with being egotistical in a bad sense. The reference to Ayn Rand is that mans ego is the fountainhead of human progress. I do not see having an ego as a bad thing. I am just questioning your presumption that posting with your main is superior in any way to posting with an alt. There are reasons to do either that are certainly valid. We only have your internet word that this is your main. I assume it isnt. Why would you make a post that talks down to other players with your main? Oh, wait, that could be an unflattering version of your ego cropping up there, I guess.

High sec: That's the tutorial. Null Sec is the actual game. Wormholes? Even CCP isn't sure.
Dessau
The Scope
#57 - 2012-11-01 16:25:12 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are.

Not sure why you'd want to use alts to meatshield the main, I thought the point was to play your main and protect the identity of your alts.
Natasha Liao
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-11-01 16:28:56 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
I'd say that if you had all your alts in one place, and you were told you can only be one of them forever and never have any more alts, the one you pick is your main.

*chuckle* Then the answer would be...

A) I wouldn't post. As Dasola mentioned: you never know who might be bored and decide to go grief someone for the lulz. 'Fun' is relative after all. And then...

B) I would have quit this game long ago. Being 'locked' into 1 'Toon would have bored me to insanity. Part of the reason he's still around is, while I've quit on-and-off over the years, it's still an '08 char with lots of skills. You don't just toss away 30mil+ worth of SP's.

As for 'worth' of an Alts opinion: as I've said - an opinion/idea doesn't become any more or less relevant/interesting based on some arbitrary number of SP's, a born on date, or any corp membership. You might be surprised what this 10/8/2012 'Alt' could tell you about scanning for instance or living in a WH. Some of us just come here for to exchange ideas, info or a laugh or three. My impression of a few groups/individuals has changed over the years because of it ( both positive and negative ). It's also good to see things from somebody else's perspective on a nerf/buff/etc and see why it might be a good, bad or who cares idea. One persons 'Small Nerf' can actually be a 'Kinda Big Thing' to others.

Some people get too wrapped up in forums, personas and 'Meta-Gaming'. That involves way more effort than I'm willing to spend on a 'game'. People can agree or disagree with what I say. It's not going to drive me into some 'U Mad Bro?' rage. I've come away from these forums a lot of times with a different perspective on things. Even from people/groups I could care less about or don't like.

You're using logic on an internet discussion forum. A rookie mistake, but one you'll soon learn to avoid. -Destiny Corrupted
The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
#59 - 2012-11-01 16:28:57 UTC
I always post on my main. Unless i was to use a silly named alt for sillyness

My favorite alt is from back when i was a low sec pirate. Have an alt called the campfre who i would put in a Burn
Ing ship on the gate with us. Because when you go camping you need a campfire!

Being a smartass is always better than being a dumbass!
Doc Enigma
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-11-01 16:36:13 UTC
Because I dont want my corp or alliance to get wardecd if my post may offend. There are vengeful players who think that all opinions that are different that their own are wrong and those people should be punished.